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Old 04-12-2013, 10:40 AM   #21
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so, if you're not planning on running race fuel, then there is not advantage to going to stage 2?
I am filling in the blanks here...

If the fuel system is upgraded in the Stage 2 over Stage 1, I would assume the potential to run E85 or a big blend of E85 would improve dramatically.

We all know where assuming gets you though..
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Old 04-12-2013, 12:54 PM   #22
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Any predictions on what that will be?
Only time will tell. We are continually pushing the limits to see what will be safe for everyone.

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so, if you're not planning on running race fuel, then there is not advantage to going to stage 2?
That is correct.

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I am filling in the blanks here...

If the fuel system is upgraded in the Stage 2 over Stage 1, I would assume the potential to run E85 or a big blend of E85 would improve dramatically.

We all know where assuming gets you though..
The plan is to have a stage 2 upgrade for MS109 and one for E85. E85 demands around 30% more fuel, so in turn you will have to further upgrade the system over the MS109 upgrade to handle the demand. Doing it this way insures that you are not buying an over sized and over priced fuel system for those that just want to run MS109.
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Old 04-12-2013, 01:01 PM   #23
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How many pounds of boost did you guys run with this fuel?

Great numbers!!!
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:50 PM   #24
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Thanks Kirk. These runs were at 17-18 psi.
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:39 PM   #25
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Thanks Kirk. These runs were at 17-18 psi.
From what I've seen the 6266 really comes alive between 20-25 psi. 700 rwhp at 18psi and that turbo is just starting to wake up .
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Old 04-13-2013, 01:19 PM   #26
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Very Impressive- love it! How are you guys able to run 17-18 psi on stock compression w/o detonation? Did I miss something?
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Old 04-13-2013, 05:35 PM   #27
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Very Impressive- love it! How are you guys able to run 17-18 psi on stock compression w/o detonation? Did I miss something?
VP MS109 fuel, 105 octane unleaded.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:58 AM   #28
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outstanding! so for people already running the stage 1 kit, stage 2 wouldn't be a difficult install since you have all of the right hardware? no fuel injector upgrades for stage 2?
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Old 04-14-2013, 10:01 AM   #29
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outstanding! so for people already running the stage 1 kit, stage 2 wouldn't be a difficult install since you have all of the right hardware? no fuel injector upgrades for stage 2?
The install would be very simple - Stage 2 uses the same hardware as Stage 1, aside from an upgraded fuel system, some wiring components, and an Eboost 2 boost controller(if you don't have one already from Stage 1). Larger injectors are part of the upgrade to Stage 2.

The Ethanol based upgrade will have additional changes to the fuel system in addition to an integrated electronic boost controller and ethanol analyzer.

As of this morning, my E46 currently has switchable maps for MS109 and 93/91 octane, and it also has the electronics installed for E85 development. We also have some pretty sweet stuff integrated into the factory ecu to make my car a rolling dyno
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As of this morning, my E46 currently has switchable maps for MS109 and 93/91 octane, and it also has the electronics installed for E85 development. We also have some pretty sweet stuff integrated into the factory ecu to make my car a rolling dyno


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Old 04-14-2013, 05:35 PM   #32
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As of this morning, my E46 currently has switchable maps for MS109 and 93/91 octane, and it also has the electronics installed for E85 development. We also have some pretty sweet stuff integrated into the factory ecu to make my car a rolling dyno
has Nick G been helping you with the latest developments (stage 2, sport button, etc) or has he shown you guys how to tune it and you're doing it yourself?
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This is so awesome guys!! Can't wait to see the e85 results!
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:03 AM   #35
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A friend of mine asks: will this DME tune be available for remote tuning/custom builds too from you guys or Technique Tuning/Nick G?
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Maybe this has been posted elsewhere, but what prices are we looking at for the Stage 2?
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Maybe this has been posted elsewhere, but what prices are we looking at for the Stage 2?
Estimate of stage 1 to 2 upgrade... These results are excelent... Decisions decisions.. Ms109, meth, or e85... Like usual the price will help me decide
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And also, will you require a procedure for running race fuel? HPF had a procedure that ensured that nearly all the regular octane fuel was consumed before the race fuel was filled. But if the DME can adjust to octane it seems like this wouldn't be required because it would just pull timing if there still was a little 93 octane left in the tank? I do not know.
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it's E85 for me or BUST I'm definitely going to be the first bringing my car in for e85 when its ready
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