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Old 04-16-2013, 03:59 PM   #1
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How out of touch is today’s GOP?

Very, apparently, according to most Americans.
To wit: It finds that only 23 percent of Americans — that would be fewer than one in four — believe the Republican Party is “in touch with the concerns of most people in the United States today,” while 70 percent believe that it is “out of touch.” Among independents, those numbers are 23-70. Among moderates they’re 20-75.

By contrast, Americans say by 51-46 that Obama is in touch. Among moderates that’s 56-42 (he fares worse among independents, 44-53, though far better than Republicans).

At the same time, the poll finds the public siding with Obama and Democrats on many major issues surveyed. Americans disapprove of the sequester cuts, 57-35 — cuts that Republicans are describing as a “victory” for them. Americans support a path to legality for illegal immigrants by 64-32. In fairness, the poll doesn’t test citizenship specifically, so this finding is somewhat inconclusive, but a new CNN poll finds that 84 percent back a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants who have a job and pay back taxes.

Meanwhile, on guns, the new Post poll finds that Americans support a law requiring background checks on gun sales at gun shows or online by 86-13. A majority, 55 percent, believes it’s possible to make new gun control laws without interfering with gun rights.

On guns, there’s an interesting nuance here. While big majorities favor expanded background checks, it’s not a motivator of voting: Americans say by 60-29 that they could vote for a candidate who disagreed with them on gun control. That helps explain why Republicans don’t really fear any public backlash on this issue.
Of course, I'm sure this polling is just as skewed as, say, that of the 2012 elections.
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Ya know, on social issues, I can very much agree. This is why Christie has such a great chance in the coming years.
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Ya know, on social issues, I can very much agree. This is why Christie has such a great chance in the coming years.
Except he complimented the POTUS during Hurricane Sandy and half of the party turned on him for not towing the party line. 100% pathetic.
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Except he complimented the POTUS during Hurricane Sandy and half of the party turned on him for not towing the party line. 100% pathetic.
I don't think it was that bad. We realize here that he needed to suck up to get the ball rolling with the funds to rebuilt. I'm sure others will as well.
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I wouldn't say all of them but a large percentage...yes.
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Ya know, on social issues, I can very much agree
Apparently too, on economic and other issues too, if one drills down a touch in the polling.
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The right is pretty out of touch with social issues.

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The right is pretty out of touch with social issues.

While I agree with you, almost 50% of the country agrees with them on a lot of the social issues (sadly).
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they need to drop the whole social issues thing and focus and fiscal conservatism.

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Apparently too, on economic and other issues too, if one drills down a touch in the polling.
Can't see how. If we continue with a liberal fiscal outlook, we are going be in trouble.

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The GOP as an entity in its current state, maybe. But if they can re brand themselves in the coming years leading to 2016, resurgence is possible. In the end, we cannot maintain this course of wild fiscal irresponsibility. I foresee a sect growing that aligns with my personal beliefs. Rational thought on moral and social issue untied from Religious BS with emphasis on balanced and educated spending.
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Mother of god, I agreed with Born Again.
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they need to drop the whole social issues thing and focus and fiscal conservatism.

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I concur.

Doe anybody really think they will in the next 20+ years?

IMO, If the USSC uphold the lower court ruling in Prop 8 and rules federal DOMA is unconstitutional, I think there is a small chance they wave the white flag on social issues.

If they dropped the social issues and depending on how they approach a more fiscal conservative platform, I might even support a GOP candidate, but, as long as they hold to social issue platform, not a chance.
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I love how progressives talk about evolving and the GOP is stuck in the past, yet point to ancient greece as evidence that gay marriage should be ok. It's like half you people are brain dead when it comes to logical arguments. REgardless of your position on the subject (no need to get into it here), it is asinine to make that connection if you're going to spout "The world is evolving not going backwards"

What I have been noticing, happily, is a lot of talk radio guys are talking about libertarianism...and often. Hopefully they don't try to co-opt it like the tea party, but the philosophy is absolutely gaining traction.
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I love how progressives talk about evolving and the GOP is stuck in the past, yet point to ancient greece as evidence that gay marriage should be ok. It's like half you people are brain dead when it comes to logical arguments. REgardless of your position on the subject (no need to get into it here), it is asinine to make that connection if you're going to spout "The world is evolving not going backwards"

What I have been noticing, happily, is a lot of talk radio guys are talking about libertarianism...and often. Hopefully they don't try to co-opt it like the tea party, but the philosophy is absolutely gaining traction.
One can argue society in some respects spent centuries devolving and since the renaissance started the long climb to evolve back to places it had been before.

There is a reason they call it the renaissance after all.
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I love how progressives talk about evolving and the GOP is stuck in the past, yet point to ancient greece as evidence that gay marriage should be ok. It's like half you people are brain dead when it comes to logical arguments. REgardless of your position on the subject (no need to get into it here), it is asinine to make that connection if you're going to spout "The world is evolving not going backwards"

What I have been noticing, happily, is a lot of talk radio guys are talking about libertarianism...and often. Hopefully they don't try to co-opt it like the tea party, but the philosophy is absolutely gaining traction.
Demonstrates that even the GOP hasn't "evolved" past ancient Greece?

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Except he complimented the POTUS during Hurricane Sandy and half of the party turned on him for not towing the party line. 100% pathetic.
Not entirely. Alot of the beef with him had to do with the jersey shore generating something in the double digits billions per year in taxable income for the state. The thought I think was is that jersey should have made provisions to help itself before begging everyone else for money.
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Ya know, on social issues, I can very much agree. This is why Christie has such a great chance in the coming years.
I wouldn't bet on it. I agree he has a good chance of being a nominee, but winning? I don't think so. His stance on guns and unions will cost him a few repub votes. A lot of conservative guys in the labor unions, and unlike a lot of politicians, he is actively fighting against them. Personally, I wouldn't be too happy with him. I vote for Rand Paul way before Christie. If he runs against Hilary (another monumental candidate, ie first woman, etc), I think his chances are very slim...no pun intended.
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Well, in the continuing tale of the GOP being out of touch with America, 90% of the Senate GOP voted against 90% of Americans in defeating a moderate bi-partisan bill on expanding background checks on gun purchases.

So just who is this 10% the GOP is apparently representing?
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