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The E46 XI was produced from 01-05 in sedan and touring body styles. Powered by either a 2.5L inline 6 in the 325xi or a 3.0L inline 6 330xi. Discuss all thing about BMW AWD E46 'Xi' here.

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Old 04-22-2013, 04:57 PM   #21
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Novabimmer has at least 5 years as an insurance claims adjuster - I bet he knows more than your oil baron dad
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Old 04-22-2013, 05:02 PM   #22
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if it was ripped out you will need a new bumper because the mounts are probably shredded. fyi, don't call your friend an idiot. you should've known better if you read the manual and realized the XI cannot be towed traditionally. Needs a flatbed otherwise you will harm the drive terrain.
How will it harm the drivetrain?!
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Old 04-22-2013, 05:09 PM   #23
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well, in this case since he had all four wheels in equal rotation it wouldn't - what the manual is saying, you cannot two with only one axle on the ground and in rotation - the transfer case can be damaged if the two axles are not interlocked and traveling about the same speed
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Old 04-22-2013, 05:11 PM   #24
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Needs a flatbed otherwise you will harm the drive terrain.
^ It would be fine theoretically. What is the difference between OPs method (not a good way to tow any car however) of towing and coasting in neutral?

NOW, If the rear wheels were in contact with the ground and rotating while the front wheels are being lifted up by the tow vehicle then there would be some problems.




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Old 04-22-2013, 05:31 PM   #25
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OP, how were you going to bring the car to a stop without power brakes? You can't, you would have rear-ended the avalanche.
Honestly this is all your fathers fault. Confront him on the bad advice he gave you. Call a real tow truck next time.
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Old 04-22-2013, 05:39 PM   #26
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Your friend is an idiot for not slowly letting out the slack. Hopefully it's nothing too serious. The tow hook is always risky business, sorry to hear. Sounds like he yanked your reinforcement bar out.

Rushing home because its 420 wasn't the best idea either.
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As has been said, if the OEM tow hook was the point used to pull the vehicle along and that was yanked out, you got some big fish to fry. At a minimum it seems that may just need to have a new threaded nut or something like that welded in. If the entire bumper and fascia were torn off in that adventure (was dude doing the pulling drunk?), I'd honestly say it is completely feasible that the car is totaled. Not kidding.

Pretty expensive lesson to learn no matter what as this will not be something that duct tape and bailing wire will fix. Take a couple minutes and look at that link I posted up and start to identify what is broken/bent/messed up.

Not to be a knucklehead or anything, but it seems like you are relying on answers to this thread a lot more than doing some simple research to find out what the real issue is. In lieu of pics, you probably are going to get picked on a good bit since you've not presented exactly what is broken.
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OP, how were you going to bring the car to a stop without power brakes? You can't, you would have rear-ended the avalanche.
Honestly this is all your fathers fault. Confront him on the bad advice he gave you. Call a real tow truck next time.
You still have the ability to operate the brakes - they are hydraulic for gods sake. The vacuum assist only ASSISTS...

and - had he listened to his father and done little bursts - it would have worked....ALTHOUGH I WOULD NOT HAVE SUGGESTED THAT EITHER

But, saying it is the fathers fault - NO
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OP, how were you going to bring the car to a stop without power brakes? You can't, you would have rear-ended the avalanche.
Honestly this is all your fathers fault. Confront him on the bad advice he gave you. Call a real tow truck next time.
btw - how does your car have 3 diffs?

DO you mean front and rear diffs (if Xi) and a transfer case

and do not make statements that you obviously don't know anything about
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The tow hook doesn't screw into the reinforcement bar, it screws into the shock mount for the bumper, which is attached to the frame of the car.

If the tow hook/mount was pulled hard enough that it pulled free from the car, then you either have to replace the threaded studs on the chassis or worse, the the other side is now bent.
Or the 'shock' ripped out of its base.

So your replacing the shock/mounts and possibly the attaching sheet metal/hardware underneath. Way to go.

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lol @ "i wonder how much my daddy is going to be paying"
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The tow hook doesn't screw into the reinforcement bar, it screws into the shock mount for the bumper, which is attached to the frame of the car.

If the tow hook/mount was pulled hard enough that it pulled free from the car, then you either have to replace the threaded studs on the chassis or worse, the the other side is now bent.
Or the 'shock' ripped out of its base.

So your replacing the shock/mounts and possibly the attaching sheet metal/hardware underneath. Way to go.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:26 PM   #34
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You still have the ability to operate the brakes - they are hydraulic for gods sake. The vacuum assist only ASSISTS...

and - had he listened to his father and done little bursts - it would have worked....ALTHOUGH I WOULD NOT HAVE SUGGESTED THAT EITHER

But, saying it is the fathers fault - NO
OP could be 98 pounds , its not easy or safe to operate the brakes without a running motor.
His father sounds like a cheap bastard. His suggestion doesn't work at all. These cars get hot very fast and take forever to cool down.

I still have 3 diffs, dont care what u say.
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Tow pulled off my Frint Bumper!!

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You still have the ability to operate the brakes - they are hydraulic for gods sake. The vacuum assist only ASSISTS...

and - had he listened to his father and done little bursts - it would have worked....ALTHOUGH I WOULD NOT HAVE SUGGESTED THAT EITHER

But, saying it is the fathers fault - NO
This was the method I used to get home from Cumberland, MD one night. It took me about 5 hours. Would not recommend.


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Old 04-22-2013, 06:54 PM   #36
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lol @ "i wonder how much my daddy is going to be paying"
Lol @ I was wondering how much I should give my dad because he wants to pay it all himself and he won't tell me how much it will be to fix it so that I don't give him money. Your a joke bro I bought my car by myself all cash in hand at age 18.
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Sooooo tried to tow an xi without a flatbed... Woof.

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Sooooo tried to tow an xi without a flatbed... Woof.

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but the way it was attempted to be towed was with all four wheels in motion at the same speed - no damage
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OP could be 98 pounds , its not easy or safe to operate the brakes without a running motor.
His father sounds like a cheap bastard. His suggestion doesn't work at all. These cars get hot very fast and take forever to cool down.

I still have 3 diffs, dont care what u say.
My 98lb 19yr old daughter could use brakes - even with car off...come on...do YOU not have a set?
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My 98lb 19yr old daughter could use brakes - even with car off...come on...do YOU not have a set?
Why do you keep bringing up the brakes? I had no control of it.
The driver was towin my car and pressed on the gas when light turned green instead of slowly letting go of brakes. His fault 100%.

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