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Old 04-30-2013, 10:38 AM   #81
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Example!!! Let's say a car is made for 10 years and brand-x makes a part for that car. At first there is no set number of production pieces that will actually make it off the assembly line. So brand-x makes 1,000,000 parts for that car. But after 10 years they only make 900,000 of those cars and it turns out that that piece was not opted to be used in any other model of car made by that or any other company on earth. So truthfully the part is mainly useless unless?... What is brand-x supposed to do with 100,000 extra parts??? They can melt em down and recycle them, one option or they can mark the price down and sell them world wide to parts stores and dealers to use for REPAIRS...to do this they usually but not always remove the O.E.M. stamp so it does not need that branded markup!

So there is a possibility that someone on earth bought original parts an an unbeliveable price, so unbelievable that some people might spend hours, days, and weeks arguing about it on a single car model fan page til they turn blue in the race despite the fact that they are a complete moron for not understanding basic economics.

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Old 04-30-2013, 10:48 AM   #82
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I can't believe you are all arguing over rubber hose...

I can promise BWM Genuine fuel line is not produced by BMW... Its a third party manufacture that produces rubber hose for dozens of aftermarket providers and other car manufactures. Mostly likely stamping BMW's little roundel on the hose to show the quality is approved by BMW. Quite possibly multiple manufactures producing rubber products for BMW over the years, depending who was bidding the lowest for a particular product. I highly doubt BMW would go through the expense of tooling an entire rubber producing plant to make hoses for their cars when out sourcing these types of small parts is much more cost efficient. I have replaced dozens of fuel filters on dozens of different cars with quality fuel line of many types with out problems. I can assure you BMW fuel line does not have magic noleak pixie dust infused in it.
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:52 AM   #83
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I can't believe you are all arguing over rubber hose...

I can promise BWM Genuine fuel line is not produced by BMW... Its a third party manufacture that produces rubber hose for dozens of aftermarket providers and other car manufactures. Mostly likely stamping BMW's little roundel on the hose to show the quality is approved by BMW. Quite possibly multiple manufactures producing rubber products for BMW over the years, depending who was bidding the lowest for a particular product. I highly doubt BMW would go through the expense of tooling an entire rubber producing plant to make hoses for their cars when out sourcing these types of small parts is much more cost efficient. I have replaced dozens of fuel filters on dozens of different cars with quality fuel line of many types with out problems. I can assure you BMW fuel line does not have magic noleak pixie dust infused in it.
These conversations on this forum are becoming asinine.
No sh!t it's probably produced by supplier. That's not the point. The point is it's cheaper than the hose at the auto parts store and "guaranteed" not to give you any problems because it's spec'd for your car and you can be assured it's quality vs some random crap at Autozone. Everyone knows this information. You aren't bringing anything new to the table.
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:52 AM   #84
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I wish. I lent out the hose to a friend for the fuel filter job on his car. i'm not sure when i'll get it back.

Here you go: $7. Says BMW right on it. Call and ask when available.

http://www.rmeuropean.com/Part-Numbe..._F810D58B.aspx
Nice! Too bad they do not have it in stock.
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Nice! Too bad they do not have it in stock.
Try other stores. the point is to give you an idea it does exist @ $7/meter. That's $2.33 a foot. Autozone will charge you about $5 for a foot. You're paying more than twice the price at Autozone to potentially shoot yourself in the foot. Play it safe and pay half? No brainer?
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Try other stores. the point is to give you an idea it does exist @ $7/meter. That's $2.33 a foot. Autozone will charge you about $5 for a foot. You're paying more than twice the price at Autozone to potentially shoot yourself in the foot. Play it safe and pay half? No brainer?
Just tried other stores with furiousmethod. Nobody has BMW hose at that price anymore. Everybody has aftermarket at that price. Contitech, CRP, etc...
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No sh!t it's probably produced by supplier. That's not the point. The point is it's cheaper than the hose at the auto parts store and "guaranteed" not to give you any problems because it's spec'd for your car and you can be assured it's quality vs some random crap at Autozone. Everyone knows this information. You aren't bringing anything new to the table.
If you agree with me than your point is mute. If a third party supplier is making hose for BMW, they must also be making it for other name brands. Meaning the same quality hose is sold without the Roundel. And the Sh!t I'm bringing to the table is far more logical to the un-car-educated people here who are trying to learn something; than your "nothing new to the table"--"Do it all" buy only BMW mentality.
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If you agree with me than your point is mute. If a third party supplier is making hose for BMW, they must also be making it for other name brands. Meaning the same quality hose is sold without the Roundel. And the Sh!t I'm bringing to the table is far more logical to the un-car-educated people here who are trying to learn something; than your "nothing new to the table"--"Do it all" buy only BMW mentality.
You're forgetting that there is more than one manufacturer of hoses. If I could be assured that I'm not getting some Chinese crap made at the lowest possible standard, then aftermarket is fine

Contitech hoses are most likely more than adequate. They already make a bunch of other rubber parts for BMW (belts and coolant hoses come to mind)

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If you agree with me than your point is mute. If a third party supplier is making hose for BMW, they must also be making it for other name brands. Meaning the same quality hose is sold without the Roundel. And the Sh!t I'm bringing to the table is far more logical to the un-car-educated people here who are trying to learn something; than your "nothing new to the table"--"Do it all" buy only BMW mentality.
"They must" is not good enough. You cannot guarantee that all fuel hose sold in North American auto parts store is from the same supplier as BMW. And again, you conveniently ignore the experiences I posted about auto parts store line not only costing twice the amount, but also causing problems with leaks for myself and other members from this forum as well as others. Again, you bring nothing to the table here.
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Something New to the table...

After some research. Looks like Dayco provides some fuel rubber products to BMW. Mainly some rubber seals provided in the fuel tank and cap system. (verified)... Must be a quality product. Perhaps they also produce rubber line for BMW. (can't verify this yet) working on it.

Suppliers list.

http://www.dayco.com/global-oem-customers

Hey look, Autozone sells Dayco fuel line.

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...er=298561_0_0_
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Something New to the table...

After some research. Looks like Dayco provides some fuel rubber products to BMW. Mainly some rubber seals provided in the fuel tank and cap system. (verified)... Must be a quality product. Perhaps they also produce rubber line for BMW. (can't verify this yet) working on it.

Suppliers list.

http://www.dayco.com/global-oem-customers

Hey look, Autozone sells Dayco fuel line.

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...er=298561_0_0_
Again, you can't assume all Autozones stock the same product across the country. Why not play it safe and save money at the same time by purchasing known quality product? Why even argue this?

The known good stuff is cheaper.
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"Why even argue this?"

Agreed...
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Agreed...
You're being silly and you know it. You're defending paying more for an inferior product. Would you buy a chinese-made replica E46 for twice the price? BUT IT LOOKS DA SAME!!
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I can't believe you are all arguing over rubber hose...

I can promise BWM Genuine fuel line is not produced by BMW... Its a third party manufacture that produces rubber hose for dozens of aftermarket providers and other car manufactures. Mostly likely stamping BMW's little roundel on the hose to show the quality is approved by BMW. Quite possibly multiple manufactures producing rubber products for BMW over the years, depending who was bidding the lowest for a particular product. I highly doubt BMW would go through the expense of tooling an entire rubber producing plant to make hoses for their cars when out sourcing these types of small parts is much more cost efficient. I have replaced dozens of fuel filters on dozens of different cars with quality fuel line of many types with out problems. I can assure you BMW fuel line does not have magic noleak pixie dust infused in it.
These conversations on this forum are becoming asinine.
95% of the car is NOT made by BMW. BMW merely designs the vehicle, contracts out the manufacturing of parts, controls quality policies, and then assembles everything.

BTW this hose argument is the most pathetic argument on E46F of all time. That's why I opted out a while ago.
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95% of the car is NOT made by BMW. BMW merely designs the vehicle, contracts out the manufacturing of parts, controls quality policies, and then assembles everything.
yeah yeah yeah teenagers everywhere know this.
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You're being silly and you know it. You're defending paying more for an inferior product. Would you buy a chinese-made replica E46 for twice the price? BUT IT LOOKS DA SAME!!
Really, do we need to keep pushing???
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Really, do we need to keep pushing???
You're the clear minority here. Maybe it's you that is pushing.
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Mango, Thanks.

Looks like that part was superseded to 16121180409 which is a same size hose. Why on earth would BMW create so many different 8x13 MM Fuel Hoses? This part is $17.00 from BMW and the 13537563456 is over $58.00. If part # 16121180409 is good enough for the E36 M3 and E34 M5 it should be sufficient.

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Looks like that part was superseded to 16121180409 which is a same size hose. Why on earth would BMW create so many different 8x13 MM Fuel Hoses? This part is $17.00 from BMW and the 13537563456 is over $58.00. If part # 16121180409 is good enough for the E36 M3 and E34 M5 it should be sufficient.

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Thanks for the part# update.

http://www.rmeuropean.com/Part-Numbe..._1FAEF62B.aspx

In stock. $4 a foot. Still cheaper than Autozone.
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