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Old 05-07-2013, 06:49 AM   #1
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Email from hardcore social conservative. The ignorance of some...

I didn't believe such nonsense could exist until I got into a political discussion with one...

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Quickly now and I will add more later. Facts are facts, everyone is not created equal, unfortunately far from it. Cultures are not equal, neither are genders and races are not equal. Nothing, maybe with the exception of gunpowder, has anything beneficial to humans ever been created outside of the Western European culture, the most superior culture on Earth. There were no great black African cities. There is no argument. What is the pathetic liberal solution to black success? Multi- culturalism, an evil wrought by the devil. The secret to success in this country has always been to adapt to the great American culture, but that would mean these idiots would have to accept the fact that one culture is, in fact, superior. Everyone is entitled to equal opportunity but never equal outcomes. This is a liberal fantasy. We all have to play the cards we are dealt with (remember I am Polish. Hear any Polish jokes lately?) . Liberals actually believe that through government they can create a perfect world. This is deranged. This is a perfect world exactly the way the Lord planned it. The battle for us as individuals to fight is here on Earth now, Heaven comes later. How arrogant that they believe they can outperform God.


There are always exceptions to the rule, but you have to face facts. Some very successful people were brought up by single mothers but they are not the rule. Facts bring us the true picture overall. You can quote as many anecdotes as you like. But children do better with stay at home moms. There is a time for everything and women are entitled to a career, but have a duty to raise their children. The downfall of every great society came with the breakdown of the family, leading to the breakdown of society which is happening now. We feel no shame in killing babies born alive from botched abortions, We know what is killing black youth in Chicago and we know how to stop it. Why are so many blacks in jail? Because they commit the crimes. 70% of these babies are born out of wedlock. For 200 years illegitimacy was less than 2%. Although facing over a hundred lawsuits by organizations who would rather see young blacks dead in the streets than to admit the insaneness of their policies, NYC has a stop and frisk policy aimed at young black men. Why? Because that’s who has the guns. Captured criminals tell police they no longer carry weapons because they are afraid of being searched. Because of this, in a city five times the size of Chicago murders are 20% of the amount in Chicago. I have hundreds of examples of idiotic policies costing not only success, but human lives because of an historically flawed and failed ideology. How stupid does it sound to offer; “But some white kids carry guns?”
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ie, The republican party platform.
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I didn't believe such nonsense could exist until I got into a political discussion with one...
Yes, upon running into these type of people, the first thought is "this is a joke, right?" and the second is "Did MTV put 'PUNK'd" back on the air?"

Out of curiosity, how long ago did you have that first discussion?

It is a shame that this is the image of a substantial portion of the GOP voter base. Folks of this ilk exist in the GOP, but they are a minority. However, a very vocal minority. Its the same problem the DNC had with real old-school tree-hugging hippies back in the 70's and early 80's. Both types are political boat anchors.

The GOP needs to jettison these folks and their ideology from their platform, or its going to cost them the white house...again.
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The thing is, though, that some on this forum would heavily endorse and agree with that email.
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The GOP needs to jettison these folks and their ideology from their platform, or its going to cost them the white house...again.

The GOP doesn't want the white house anymore. They want to control the states, congress, and the supreme court. That's their strategy imo.
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The thing is, though, that Chase would heavily endorse and agree with that email.
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Yes, upon running into these type of people, the first thought is "this is a joke, right?" and the second is "Did MTV put 'PUNK'd" back on the air?"

Out of curiosity, how long ago did you have that first discussion?

It is a shame that this is the image of a substantial portion of the GOP voter base. Folks of this ilk exist in the GOP, but they are a minority. However, a very vocal minority. Its the same problem the DNC had with real old-school tree-hugging hippies back in the 70's and early 80's. Both types are political boat anchors.

The GOP needs to jettison these folks and their ideology from their platform, or its going to cost them the white house...again.
Started the discussion no more than 2 months ago. I might add that the profile is a white male in his 70s.
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The GOP doesn't want the white house anymore. They want to control the states, congress, and the supreme court. That's their strategy imo.
And they're doing it well.
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That email is 99% crap.

I do agree with him that everyone is entitled to equal opportunity, but not equal outcomes however. And attempting to level the playing field by taking money from people because "they have too much and others have too little" is indeed the liberal way.

The whole nonsense about God is just that; nonsense. I have my own beliefs about creation and a higher power, but basing every policy in the world on those beliefs is ridiculous. And basing your entire rationale on them is ridiculous IMO.

Statistics don't lie about the crime stats though, no matter which way anybody wants to get their panties in a bunch over it and cry foul. The crime rate for African Americans is significantly higher than other demographics. I'm not implying its a racial thing; its more a society thing and where they've been brought up and what they're exposed to. But ignoring the facts doesn't help the situation. Just like white folk commit the most large scale mass attacks.
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Was this perhaps written by The Onion? XD

This can't be f*cking serious.
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Children of single mothers are statistically more likely to do drugs, go to jail, commit real crimes, commit suicide, have children out of wedlock and end up in poverty.
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Children of single mothers are statistically more likely to do drugs, go to jail, commit real crimes, commit suicide, have children out of wedlock and end up in poverty.
Three of those apply to me. I'll let you guess which ones. But my parents were and still are married :-|
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The GOP can't have the white house anymore, so they want to control the states, congress, and the supreme court. That's their strategy imo.
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Three of those apply to me. I'll let you guess which ones. But my parents were and still are married :-|
Your post is inconsequential, I said statistically more likely...and it is 100% true.
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Your post is inconsequential, I said statistically more likely...and it is 100% true.
60% of the time, it works everytime.
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