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Old 05-14-2013, 07:54 PM   #1
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For all the liberal Obama lovers that hate GMO foods

Meet Barack Obama, Monstanto's biggest lobbyist...

Did you know..... Since the 2008 eleciton, the Obama administration has appointed a number of key Monstanto executives into very influential Federal position which govern our food?

Wait before we begin, yes it is from "natural news" which most of you will write off and say not it's not true because "I don't like what it says" and "it's not MSNBC" (A common ad hominem tactic the Obama shills on this forum frequenlty use) but they are simply giving factual information about positions filed by the Obama adminstration anyone can look up.

http://www.naturalnews.com/037310_ba...#ixzz2TJgTZAOE


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The new president filled key posts with Monsanto people, in federal agencies that wield tremendous force in food issues, the USDA and the FDA:

At the USDA, as the director of the National Institute of Food and Agriculture, Roger Beachy, former director of the Monsanto Danforth Center.

As deputy commissioner of the FDA, the new food-safety-issues czar, the infamous Michael Taylor, former vice-president for public policy for Monsanto. Taylor had been instrumental in getting approval for Monsanto's genetically engineered bovine growth hormone.

As commissioner of the USDA, Iowa governor, Tom Vilsack. Vilsack had set up a national group, the Governors' Biotechnology Partnership, and had been given a Governor of the Year Award by the Biotechnology Industry Organization, whose members include Monsanto.

As the new Agriculture Trade Representative, who would push GMOs for export, Islam Siddiqui, a former Monsanto lobbyist.

As the new counsel for the USDA, Ramona Romero, who had been corporate counsel for another biotech giant, DuPont.

As the new head of the USAID, Rajiv Shah, who had preciously worked in key positions for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, a major funder of GMO agriculture research.

We should also remember that Obama's secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, once worked for the Rose law firm. That firm was counsel to Monsanto.

Obama nominated Elena Kagan to the US Supreme Court. Kagan, as federal solicitor general, had previously argued for Monsanto in the Monsanto v. Geertson seed case before the Supreme Court.
I imagine a bunch of liberal vegetarian/ vegan hipsters heads exploding in confusion and denial, hahahaha
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Cool story, Hansel.
You do see the obvious hypocrisy here.... right?

At ANY point will the left turn on this guy? Or is blind continued faith just more profitable?
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You do see the obvious hypocrisy here.... right?

At ANY point will the left turn on this guy? Or is blind continued faith just more profitable?
Does the entirety of the left support a vegan lifestyle? Monsanto is a definite powerhouse that borders on corporate abuse, but what rule/promise is Obama breaking?

This is no different than Republicans blatantly supporting defense companies, and the like, but I didn't see any one from that side getting their nips in a twist over it.

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Does the entirety of the left support a vegan lifestyle? Monsanto is a definite powerhouse that borders on corporate abuse, but what rule/promise is Obama breaking?

This is no different than Republicans blatantly supporting defense companies, and the like, but I didn't see any one from that side getting their nips in a twist over it.




No nip twists because defense companies do just that, provide the tools to DEFEND our country. How is that a bad thing? We are fortunate that Lockheed, Raytheon etc.. do business with us.
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I support Obama and GMO foods. Thanks Obama. Keep up the good work
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I also love gmo foods. I have a package of apple slices in my fridge that's six months old, and they still look brand new
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Meet Barack Obama, Monstanto's biggest lobbyist...

Did you know..... Since the 2008 eleciton, the Obama administration has appointed a number of key Monstanto executives into very influential Federal position which govern our food?

Wait before we begin, yes it is from "natural news" which most of you will write off and say not it's not true because "I don't like what it says" and "it's not MSNBC" (A common ad hominem tactic the Obama shills on this forum frequenlty use) but they are simply giving factual information about positions filed by the Obama adminstration anyone can look up.

http://www.naturalnews.com/037310_ba...#ixzz2TJgTZAOE




I imagine a bunch of liberal vegetarian/ vegan hipsters heads exploding in confusion and denial, hahahaha
translation: Don't attack my obvious, and questionable, bias sources!

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No nip twists because defense companies do just that, provide the tools to DEFEND our country. How is that a bad thing? We are fortunate that Lockheed, Raytheon etc.. do business with us.
They would provide those with or without the massive amounts of corporate welfare.

If you were being consistent you would be thankful that Obama was coddling Monsanto, after all, we're lucky that they provide us tools to FEED our country.
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I imagine a bunch of liberal vegetarian/ vegan hipsters heads exploding in confusion and denial, hahahaha
I imagine there is some small subset of Obama supporters as described above who are choking on their chai lattes over this. However, this is but a small subset of Obama supporters and the above description far more comports with the convenient and comforting GOP caricature than reflecting the far less comforting breadth and depth of support he actually garners across America, certainly far more than Republicans in general.

Probably far more conservative heads are exploding who have so bought into their own false and cartoonish rhetoric of Obama being some ultra-liberal, hippie, Communist, Muslim, America-hating Kenyan that they can't see past the reality that he is far more middle of the road pragmatist who would tap into the talent and expertise of America's corporations.

That this is surprising, to anybody, is what ought to be surprising.
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I imagine there is some small subset of Obama supporters as described above who are choking on their chai lattes over this. However, this is but a small subset of Obama supporters and the above description far more comports with the convenient and comforting GOP caricature than reflecting the far less comforting breadth and depth of support he actually garners across America, certainly far more than Republicans in general.

Probably far more conservative heads are exploding who have so bought into their own false and cartoonish rhetoric of Obama being some ultra-liberal, hippie, Communist, Muslim, America-hating Kenyan that they can't see past the reality that he is far more middle of the road pragmatist who would tap into the talent and expertise of America's corporations.

That this is surprising, to anybody, is what ought to be surprising.
All of a sudden the big bad evil corporations are OK.

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translation: Don't attack my obvious, and questionable, bias sources!
You can look up these positions yourself. They are government appointees anyone can look up.
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All of a sudden the big bad evil corporations are OK.

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They are neither necessarily evil (immoral) nor good (moral), but a rather, neither (ammoral). Left to their own devices are quite capable of being either good or evil in pursuit of their most basic objective: financial profit. It is generally left to external agents -- communities, faith institutions, governments -- to assure that the behavior of corporations tends towards the good rather than the evil.
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Fear if GMOs is just a massive lack of education on anyone's part, right or left.
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Agreed. Oh the horror...
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They would provide those with or without the massive amounts of corporate welfare.

If you were being consistent you would be thankful that Obama was coddling Monsanto, after all, we're lucky that they provide us tools to FEED our country.
Serious question (not trying to make a point)

Does corporate welfare benefit our society more than entitlement welfare? Corporate welfare seems to create real jobs (engineers for defense contractors, pencil pushers for banking, etc...). Though entitlement welfare helps those in need, a persistently growing entitlement welfare only appears to be a black hole in terms of ROI for our economy. With the "multiplier effect" I hear so many liberals preaching concerning infrastructure projects (which IMO are corporate welfare), I would think corporate welfare is a great economic stimulus. Is entitlement welfare an equal stimulus?

Just wondering. You and Wraisil are two prominent members who I feel know the economics of things (instead of blabbing partisan talking points).
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Why don't you tell those wonderful corporations to get off some jobs? They're making record profits while working skeleton crews to death.
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Serious question (not trying to make a point)

Does corporate welfare benefit our society more than entitlement welfare? Corporate welfare seems to create real jobs (engineers for defense contractors, pencil pushers for banking, etc...). Though entitlement welfare helps those in need, a persistently growing entitlement welfare only appears to be a black hole in terms of ROI for our economy. With the "multiplier effect" I hear so many liberals preaching concerning infrastructure projects (which IMO are corporate welfare), I would think corporate welfare is a great economic stimulus. Is entitlement welfare an equal stimulus?

Just wondering. You and Wraisil are two prominent members who I feel know the economics of things (instead of blabbing partisan talking points).

I'm not sure which benefits society more, but I'm fairly certain that more is spent on corporate welfare vs. social welfare. Both have a good benefit for the economy. Think about things like food stamps or welfare payments.....that's a pretty solid stimulus to the economy. Nearly every dollar that goes to welfare is spent on purchasing a product....food, goods, services, etc. which all keep people employed and business growing.
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