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Old 05-19-2013, 08:31 PM   #1
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High beam problems please help

high beams won't turn on when i push the stalk forward, however when i pull to flash they work. ive talked to dealership mechanics the only thing i got from them was " i've never heard of that." One of them said its probably in the stalk so after ordering and paying for 2 of them over ebay {primeauto11 DONT ORDER FROM THIS GUY } i installed it this morning and nothing changed. I've looked this up and cant find anything about it anywhere.

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Old 06-03-2013, 01:17 PM   #2
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I have the same problem?
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:24 PM   #3
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From what ive learned I have to recode the light control module with a program called NCS Expert to turn the high beam function on. However the only place I could find to buy it online is 650.00 plus shipping which is outta budget right now!

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Old 06-03-2013, 07:27 PM   #4
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Do you have xenon lights?
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:43 PM   #5
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Do you have xenon lights?
I'll guarantee he does. He needs new BMW shop, this is normal operation. The car needs to be coded to allow halogen high beams to come on when bixenons are on bright.

Look for Sillieidiot's post of lighting and electrical problems. This forum discourages the posting of coding info but if you have access to NCSExpert many, including me, know the proper coding.
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Yea, most likely his bi-xenon shutter is not working.
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Old 06-03-2013, 08:02 PM   #7
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Yea, most likely his bi-xenon shutter is not working.
No! That is NORMAL operation. It is called "flash to pass". The idea being at since xenons take a while to ignite and warm up, they cannot be used as instant on flashers for things like signaling. So the halogen inside lights only come on when the stalk is pulled into the flash position but when it is pushed away to the high position, the shutters go up in the Bixenons and there is no need for the inner lamps.
This normal setting can be overridden using NCS or some other releases of software. Go to Sillieidiot's thread and look at item 6, in his initial post or my posts on this subject.

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I'm saying that according to what he said, he pushes forward and nothing, pulls back and high beams turn off. A car with bi-xenon lights will have the shutter open when the stalk is pushed forward so the low beam light will be the highbeam, pulling back the flash to pass comes on.
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I'm saying that according to what he said, he pushes forward and nothing, pulls back and high beams turn off. A car with bi-xenon lights will have the shutter open when the stalk is pushed forward so the low beam light will be the highbeam, pulling back the flash to pass comes on.
He only thinks nothing happens because the inside lights (halogens) do not come on. Read the link and reread OP's post. What he is talking about is normal operation. I have had my car in both states at different times. It is a one line entry in NCS.
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My lights are halogen ( yellow light) I was on sillieidiots post about trouble shooting light issues. This is where my question was first answered and where I learned of ncs.

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My lights are halogen ( yellow light) I was on sillieidiots post about trouble shooting light issues. This is where my question was first answered and where I learned of ncs.

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Then your car has been somehow coded to think it is equipped with xenons. You need someone with NCSExpert to trace the car, check the parameters regarding the lights and make the necessary adjustments. The symptoms you describe fit too perfectly with normal Bixenon operation to be a coincidence.
Ask around the forum and see if anyone here is near to you and can do that for you.
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Thanks. Yeah I've asked on here and on bmw coders haven't heard anything yet but I appreciate your information every bit helps me get one step closer to fixing my situation.

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Thanks. Yeah I've asked on here and on bmw coders haven't heard anything yet but I appreciate your information every bit helps me get one step closer to fixing my situation.

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I took my car to a guy that has BMW software or something, he by-passed the switch and went directly to the LCM, he still could not get the high beams to turn on. The flash feature works, but not the high beams. I have Xeon lights. Can I get my LCM re-flashed, or do I need to go to the wreckers and get a used one and have BMW re-code it to the car?
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I took my car to a guy that has BMW software or something, he by-passed the switch and went directly to the LCM, he still could not get the high beams to turn on. The flash feature works, but not the high beams. I have Xeon lights. Can I get my LCM re-flashed, or do I need to go to the wreckers and get a used one and have BMW re-code it to the car?
You describe normal behavior you just need to have one line of code changed.
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Where does a guy go to get that done? Can an Indy do it? Is there a link etc. to show exactly what needs to be done? Thanks
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Try Paul180 for MD help. He posted an offer to do it.
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Where does a guy go to get that done? Can an Indy do it? Is there a link etc. to show exactly what needs to be done? Thanks
Go to your region in the forums and search using key word coding. You should find somebody offering to code cars cheap or free.
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