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Old 12-31-2013, 04:44 PM   #201
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amazing that the ess tune was good "right out of the box"...even with my bastardized TS3 in an MS45.1 car (something they had never done) the car ran great, AFR was nearly spot on...no CELs
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GL Chase - you are in good hands with RRT...albeit potentially pricey in parts and labor (even discounted)
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I've had several back & forth Emails with owners about the fact that their VF #VFK 17-01 kit / software for the M54B30 is able to "adapt" to things like a pulley change to get more psi & water meth injection. After these changes had been implemented, their AFR numbers were still perfect.
Yup it seems to be reported as a great tune. Honestly I was very surprised with how well it was doing when all was said and done. It just goes to show when real tuners give the time and effort to do it right like VF with this tune. That they really do it right.
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As I read this,.......I just keep SHAKING MY HEAD.

All I'll say is you're far to diplomatic about all of this, but I understand why. In a sense (A Very Real Sense) AA has you by the balls (not trying to be mean) because you're still looking for them to "fix" your tuning issues.

This of course means you can't afford to "burn that bridge" with AA, at least not yet. Someday you'll sell your Bimmer or sell off that supercharger, then you'll REALLY be able to speak your mind on all of this.


To AA, your customer support is Very lacking, these tuning issues should have been fixed within the first 30 days.

...........this is me being VERY DIPLOMATIC.
For a person who is being "Very Diplomatic" you seem to start controversy, I am straight forward person so I am going to reply to your post by first saying we are not holding anyone by the "balls". We do our very best to help our clients get the most performance out of their vehicles within safe parameters that is why we have a dedicated engineering department to diagnose these issues and help point our customers in the right direction.

You can call Active Autowerke and I can assure you will always a get a representative during business hours and if not you can leave a message and someone will always get back to you within a timely matter.

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I've had several back & forth Emails with owners about the fact that their VF #VFK 17-01 kit / software for the M54B30 is able to "adapt" to things like a pulley change to get more psi & water meth injection. After these changes had been implemented, their AFR numbers were still perfect.
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Yup it seems to be reported as a great tune. Honestly I was very surprised with how well it was doing when all was said and done. It just goes to show when real tuners give the time and effort to do it right like VF with this tune. That they really do it right.
It's quite amazing how you guys quickly forget the good old days from VF...

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Viral, why hasn't AA fixed Chase's tune yet? Yes he could go to Frank Smith and get a custom tune but that will cost a great deal more money, if that is AA's fix to the problem then AA should foot the bill for that custom tune.

You said AA has the ability to data log? Why hasn't this been done for Chase's car? You send him your tool/utility to datalog when he drives around and then modify the tune to make it more safe? This should have been arranged within days of him finding how lean his car is running up top on the dyno.

You sit hear and type this and that about engineering and R&D at AA, yet the tune running Chase's car still does not build confidence and is straight up dangerous. If his motor blows will AA cover it? No they won't.


Chase has actually dropped off the forums ever since this debacle unfolded. Anyone can call AA and AA will get back to them in a timely fashion, well how about fixing my mans tune so he's not worried about damaging his engine whenever he feels like taking it out for a drive?

Do the right thing AA, work out a deal with Frank Smith and pay for Chases car to get tuned properly.
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Viral, why hasn't AA fixed Chase's tune yet? Yes he could go to Frank Smith and get a custom tune but that will cost a great deal more money, if that is AA's fix to the problem then AA should foot the bill for that custom tune.

You said AA has the ability to data log? Why hasn't this been done for Chase's car? You send him your tool/utility to datalog when he drives around and then modify the tune to make it more safe? This should have been arranged within days of him finding how lean his car is running up top on the dyno.

You sit hear and type this and that about engineering and R&D at AA, yet the tune running Chase's car still does not build confidence and is straight up dangerous. If his motor blows will AA cover it? No they won't.

Chase has actually dropped off the forums ever since this debacle unfolded. Anyone can call AA and AA will get back to them in a timely fashion, well how about fixing my mans tune so he's not worried about damaging his engine whenever he feels like taking it out for a drive?

Do the right thing AA, work out a deal with Frank Smith and pay for Chases car to get tuned properly.
As for Chase fixing his tune yet it's just him trying to find the time to balance his work schedule and getting the car to the shop I really can't force him to get it done right now. It's his car when he has the down time he can take the car to shop and from there we can gather information and get the car tuned properly. Please stop speculating his car is going to blow up an create panic for no reason. We work with Frank Smith and have no issues getting his car running he just needs to find time.
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Viral.... when I did the custom intercooler, 100 octane and added a smaller pulley to get 10psi instead of 6psi on what the kit comes with... the automatic tune from VF was giving me 11.4-12.2 AFR at full throttle. To me... that's pretty damn impressive. Idle was around 14.7 but that doesn't really matter..... My point is that the VF tune did perform well. It gave me no issues like Chase is having. I'm not saying your work is bad and I'm not putting anyone down.... I'm simply stating my experience with the VF tune.
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I have no issues, history, or anything against AA, I am just surprised that the issues have not been resolved. I understand that it takes both parties to work together, but I guess it's the issues in thef irst place that surprise me. Then again, I may have just gotten lucky or had a very experienced tuner (both probably), as I am not running any "out of the box" setup or even parts of setups, yet it was only two 2hr dyno sessions to have my car completely sorted *shrug*
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Frank Smith got mine worked out.

It's hard with these cars. It could be a number of things that add up to Chase's issues.

Chase,

Feel free to call me and maybe I can help you since I had some issues early on with my setup.



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Viral.... when I did the custom intercooler, 100 octane and added a smaller pulley to get 10psi instead of 6psi on what the kit comes with... the automatic tune from VF was giving me 11.4-12.2 AFR at full throttle. To me... that's pretty damn impressive. Idle was around 14.7 but that doesn't really matter..... My point is that the VF tune did perform well. It gave me no issues like Chase is having. I'm not saying your work is bad and I'm not putting anyone down.... I'm simply stating my experience with the VF tune.
I am glad that you are happy with your kit and customized to have it running properly with VF. It's just news to me that you have a off the shelf tune running with 100 Octane & a smaller pulley and custom Intercooler at 10 PSI with perfect AFR. Chase's issue is fixable and not a permanent issue.

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I have no issues, history, or anything against AA, I am just surprised that the issues have not been resolved. I understand that it takes both parties to work together, but I guess it's the issues in thef irst place that surprise me. Then again, I may have just gotten lucky or had a very experienced tuner (both probably), as I am not running any "out of the box" setup or even parts of setups, yet it was only two 2hr dyno sessions to have my car completely sorted *shrug*
Trust me I wish we can have this issue resolved sooner but I am not going to hold a gun to his head and tell him to fix it now. Everyone has their priorities but I can assure you we stand by our kit and most importantly our customer to resolve any issues they have.

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Frank Smith got mine worked out.

It's hard with these cars. It could be a number of things that add up to Chase's issues.

Chase,

Feel free to call me and maybe I can help you since I had some issues early on with my setup.

And yep, I sold out and got an M3, The guy that bought my stage 2 setup got tuned by frank and so far he isn't having any issues, daily driven. MS45 setup too.
Exactly some hardware issues could throw a tune off as simple as a MAF. Can't wait see what plans you have for the M3. First mod should be a baby recaro seat
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Exactly some hardware issues could throw a tune off as simple as a MAF. Can't wait see what plans you have for the M3. First mod should be a baby recaro seat

Haha, you know me so well.

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it sucks to have to pay more money (and time/effort) to have the car "fixed" after spending all that money on the kit. I would hope that Viral refunds any costs for these "fixes" - hell, at this point Chase would get a free SC
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As for Chase fixing his tune yet it's just him trying to find the time to balance his work schedule and getting the car to the shop I really can't force him to get it done right now. It's his car when he has the down time he can take the car to shop and from there we can gather information and get the car tuned properly. Please stop speculating his car is going to blow up an create panic for no reason. We work with Frank Smith and have no issues getting his car running he just needs to find time.
so you're saying running lean like he is, is no problem? If anyone drove that car hard for any length of time the outcome would not be pretty
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Just to chime in with my personal experience. Regardless of Chases situation Active Autowerkes offers the best off the shelf setups on the market for supercharging. I know of a number of local members that went vf and have had issues since day 1. And have a real hard time to get the follow up service.

I have had nothing but good customer service with AA and quality hardware. It sounds more like mentioned that Chase needs to prioritize his efforts and get it sorted. Sometimes easier said that done. Regardless I'm sure AA has been doing their job. I can vouche at least from my experience. All things said I hope he gets it sorted soon. Have been a fan of his car since joining years ago


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I cannot comment on the VF products - but to put AA before ESS is ludicrous
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The issue is between Chase and AA.

All the rest of this dialog has been for individual poster's personal enjoyment. Whether that's attacking either party for the current situation, or being seen as "helpful" for their own ego.

There are better topics to pursue than trying to instigate a conflict here.
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Brady, Anthony, Chase all had the same problem. Clearly, these cars weren't maintained properly. Viral, post some E46 shop cars dynos with no smoothing and afrs.

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It's a girl so I have to get it in Active Autowerke Purple.
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it sucks to have to pay more money (and time/effort) to have the car "fixed" after spending all that money on the kit. I would hope that Viral refunds any costs for these "fixes" - hell, at this point Chase would get a free SC
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so you're saying running lean like he is, is no problem? If anyone drove that car hard for any length of time the outcome would not be pretty
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I cannot comment on the VF products - but to put AA before ESS is ludicrous
You 2 are just going in circles over and over and are intentionally trying to bash AA but yet Promote ESS at the same time...

We are fixing Chase's issue for free but should I charge you for reading your ludacris posts you make. (BTW that was a joke hopefully you got it )

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Just to chime in with my personal experience. Regardless of Chases situation Active Autowerkes offers the best off the shelf setups on the market for supercharging. I know of a number of local members that went vf and have had issues since day 1. And have a real hard time to get the follow up service.

I have had nothing but good customer service with AA and quality hardware. It sounds more like mentioned that Chase needs to prioritize his efforts and get it sorted. Sometimes easier said that done. Regardless I'm sure AA has been doing their job. I can vouche at least from my experience. All things said I hope he gets it sorted soon. Have been a fan of his car since joining years ago

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The issue is between Chase and AA.

All the rest of this dialog has been for individual poster's personal enjoyment. Whether that's attacking either party for the current situation, or being seen as "helpful" for their own ego.

There are better topics to pursue than trying to instigate a conflict here.
Could not have said it better.
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Anthony's thread is identical to this mess. The poor guy replaced everything bought parts over and over. Car never ran right, not even a video. He had a huge for sale thread, brand new parts for about 8 different set ups. I've never seen a dyno from AA that makes the full advertised power. I know the response, we have no idea what condition said car was in when it was dyno'd. Ask yourself, hardware? lack of maintenance? weak engines? anything and everything but software? Make your own decision, the facts are out there. Everything i've said is merely my opinion on AA's ability to tune non M e46s.

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Anthony's thread is identical to this mess. The poor guy replaced everything bought parts over and over. Car never ran right, not even a video. He had a huge for sale thread, brand new parts for about 8 different set ups. I've never seen a dyno from AA that makes the full advertised power. I know the response, we have no idea what condition said car was in when it was dyno'd. Ask yourself, hardware? lack of maintenance? weak engines? anything and everything but software? Make your own decision, the facts are out there. Everything i've said is merely my opinion on AA's ability to tune non M e46s.
Your lack of posts and New Member status just seems you came in to add to the fire. I know Anthony Personally and I can assure you Zak did his very best to help him out with his Kit. Well we do know the conditions of each car dyno'ed they have it saved with the Dyno Run File.
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