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Old 06-10-2013, 02:22 PM   #81
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I really hope you / RRT get this figured out.

The Major problem I have with the Vendor that sold you this kit is, most others that buy this stage 2 kit run into the same or similar problems. In the end you waste A LOT of Time and Money hunting down problems that shouldn't exist. This kit should have been a straight forward Bolt On for RRT, you then should've driven out of the shop and down the road as a happy customer.

But instead it's turning into a nightmare.

In a Very short period of time if you can't get it running perfect, and I really mean PERFECT, ASK FOR A REFUND.

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I really hope you / RRT get this figured out.

The Major problem I have with the Vendor that sold you this kit is, most others that buy this stage 2 kit run into the same or similar problems. In the end you waste A LOT of Time and Money hunting down problems that shouldn't exist. This kit should have been a straight forward Bolt On for RRT, you then should've driven out of the shop and down the road as a happy customer.

But instead it's turning into a nightmare.

In a Very short period of time if you can't get it running perfect, and I really mean PERFECT, ASK FOR A REFUND.

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I'm pretty sure this isnt their standard bolt on kit. He wanted to achieve a certain amount of power and did it different. I could be wrong though.


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Old 06-10-2013, 07:49 PM   #86
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I'm pretty sure this isnt their standard bolt on kit. He wanted to achieve a certain amount of power and did it different. I could be wrong though.


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Yes.

You're wrong. It's the standard stage 2 anyone can buy.

Quote: "At the day's end, we settled upon their Stage 2 kit with an Active intercooler, Rotrex blower (pushing 11-12 psi), an oil cooler for the blower, and all the other needed goodies."

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So a little update.

- Car has been misfiring in cylinders 1, 2, and 3. Misfires were uncommon and were popping up between 1800-2500 rpms under light load. Car runs fine in higher rpms though a little leaner than we'd like.

Changed out :
-- 02 sensors
-- All coil packs

Car continued misfiring and now did it MUCH more common.. though still doing so in the same RPM area.

Drove up to Ocean City, MD this weekend for the show... car drove fine though CES light was on. Car is back in the shop and they are going to continue to try and figure out what is going wrong. Perhaps the tune? Perhaps there is a wire that is frayed or acting up... rather confused at this point
Dude, driving that around as lean as it was before is crazy. You may have damaged your engine from that. Now if the motor gives out they're gonna blame you, and what's written below is the truth.

Did AA give you that kit for free(sponsor), or was it a % off and do you still feel it was a good deal?

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I really hope you / RRT get this figured out.

The Major problem I have with the Vendor that sold you this kit is, most others that buy this stage 2 kit run into the same or similar problems. In the end you waste A LOT of Time and Money hunting down problems that shouldn't exist. This kit should have been a straight forward Bolt On for RRT, you then should've driven out of the shop and down the road as a happy customer.

But instead it's turning into a nightmare.

In a Very short period of time if you can't get it running perfect, and I really mean PERFECT, ASK FOR A REFUND.

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Yes.

You're wrong. It's the standard stage 2 anyone can buy.

Quote: "At the day's end, we settled upon their Stage 2 kit with an Active intercooler, Rotrex blower (pushing 11-12 psi), an oil cooler for the blower, and all the other needed goodies."

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In that case I really wouldn't be happy.
That's a lot I work for a bolt in kit


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In that case I really wouldn't be happy.
That's a lot I work for a bolt in kit.
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Congrats to finally adding boost Chase. Hopefully you can get your issue fixed. I think you should have gone with an engine swap for more reliable power.
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Dude, driving that around as lean as it was before is crazy. You may have damaged your engine from that. Now if the motor gives out they're gonna blame you, and what's written below is the truth.

Did AA give you that kit for free(sponsor), or was it a % off and do you still feel it was a good deal?

really sorry to hear about all this trouble, talk about blown
Well Active didn't provide the kit for free.. both because I don't think my car was worth the marketing to them and the fact that a lot of the costs are out of their hands (Rotrex blower for example). But yeah, they gave me a good deal and I was very thankful for doing so. Hopefully I can get it all sorted out. I'm trying to figure out the best way to do this.. part of me is considering seeing if Active would continue to warrant the mechanical and electronic side of the equation if i took it to Frank Smith (a tuner in Baltimore who has been talked up a lot by local members).
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Congrats to finally adding boost Chase. Hopefully you can get your issue fixed. I think you should have gone with an engine swap for more reliable power.
We actually considered that. My concern was the whole "nice M3" issue. I never set off to turn my 328 into an M and I felt like throwing the M motor in there would just be the nail in the coffin of that conversation.. I would essentially be guilty of doing exactly that.

Plus, there is something unique and cool about going this route. But you're right in the sense that the costs involved would have easily covered the M3 motor swap... had it been possible, I would have preferred to throw in the E39 M5 motor (or similar V8) but that would have just been insanely costly.

Hopefully this all gets sorted out. RRT is one of the top shops in our area (if not the best) and they even they are puzzled by this.
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Hopefully. Otherwise, I'll never be able to keep up with your sexy M
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Well Active didn't provide the kit for free.. both because I don't think my car was worth the marketing to them and the fact that a lot of the costs are out of their hands (Rotrex blower for example). But yeah, they gave me a good deal and I was very thankful for doing so. Hopefully I can get it all sorted out. I'm trying to figure out the best way to do this.. part of me is considering seeing if Active would continue to warrant the mechanical and electronic side of the equation if i took it to Frank Smith (a tuner in Baltimore who has been talked up a lot by local members).

I would recommend against this thinking.

Unless you got a Contract (drawn up by YOUR attorney) approved by AA saying that "Frank Smith" could do or try whatever he felt necessary to get it tuned properly, I wouldn't do it. Even with a contract, if Frank Smith had a motor failure while tuning on the dyno, let the back and forth blame games begin. If that were the case, your car would sit for a year before the "blame game" issues were sorted out.

DON'T loose sight of the fact that AA sold you this "bolt on" kit, and it's been anything but. This is AA's problem, AA should be the company that sorts out your tuning issues, NOT ANY THIRD PARTY.

After RRT works all of there magic and doesn't solve these problems, I would DEMAND that AA fly up their tuning expert to tune your car himself on RRT's dyno, If not..........IT'S TIME FOR A REFUND.

I can't even imagine how much extra money you've spent on parts and labor try to get this working right.
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I would recommend against this thinking.

Unless you got a Contract (drawn up by YOUR attorney) approved by AA saying that "Frank Smith" could do or try whatever he felt necessary to get it tuned properly, I wouldn't do it. Even with a contract, if Frank Smith had a motor failure while tuning on the dyno, let the back and forth blame games begin. If that were the case, your car would sit for a year before the "blame game" issues were sorted out.

DON'T loose sight of the fact that AA sold you this "bolt on" kit, and it's been anything but. This is AA's problem, AA should be the company that sorts out your tuning issues, NOT ANY THIRD PARTY.

After RRT works all of there magic and doesn't solve these problems, I would DEMAND that AA fly up their tuning expert to tune your car himself on RRT's dyno, If not..........IT'S TIME FOR A REFUND.

I can't even imagine how much extra money you've spent on parts and labor try to get this working right.
Well over a thousand thus far in trouble shooting and parts.. and that is including very generous discounts from the superstars at RRT

I'm sure Active will figure it out.
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That sucks. I was expecting big power from this car....I wanted to see the high side of 300. Did you guys install a new fuel pump??? Did they try clocking the maf??? Did they gap down the plugs???


Here's a dumb idea, add another ground from the chassis to the block.
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the thing is, the kit is supposed to be plug and play. It's supposed to be that simple, unfortunately it has not been. I feel for you bro, good luck and godspeed...
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Have you send Anthony (trippinbimmer) a PM to see maybe he has any suggestion? I believe he is running the same kit.
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That sucks. I was expecting big power from this car....I wanted to see the high side of 300. Did you guys install a new fuel pump??? Did they try clocking the maf??? Did they gap down the plugs???
Well the plugs were pre gapped by Active and RRT looked them over prior to install. Perhaps they weren't gapped properly by Active but that would be reallllly low probability given we are getting misfires on 3 cylinders. If it was one, that might be more likely. The fuel pump isn't brand new and we've considered swapping it out with that of the E46 M. RRT is sending the fuel trims to Zak from Active tomorrow to have him take a peak. Haven't done anything to the MAF but have all new O2 sensors. RRT is hoping for north of 350 wheel when it's running right.
Here's a dumb idea, add another ground from the chassis to the block.
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the thing is, the kit is supposed to be plug and play. It's supposed to be that simple, unfortunately it has not been. I feel for you bro, good luck and godspeed...
True. I was hoping we would be glitch free but I suppose this is what you get with modding cars.
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Chase,
Have you send Anthony (trippinbimmer) a PM to see maybe he has any suggestion? I believe he is running the same kit.
Yeah Anthony has been one of my go-tos on this project. He has the same setup on his ZHP and had issues himself getting things to adjust properly.. though with his kit, he was tweaking it and playing with pulley sizes.. I'm trying to just run Active's off the shelf kit within spec with headers and meth for added power.
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has Anthony's car ever run correctly? I haven't followed exactly, but I remember seeing his project riddled with issues as well...
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