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Old 05-27-2013, 10:43 PM   #21
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A 525 has a timing belt? I thought its a chain on I-6 2.5l.
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Old 05-27-2013, 10:46 PM   #22
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I was about to call BS on that car being from DC, because of the lack of dents. But then I saw the front fender has a dent, and there is a scrape on the front bumper.
I have never seen a car with DC plates that did not have a dent or scrape. I think the fact that it only has one dent and one scrape after all those years in DC is more impressive than the low mileage. That it a terrible place for cars.
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Old 05-27-2013, 10:48 PM   #23
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A 525 has a timing belt? I thought its a chain on I-6 2.5l.
As far as I know, that car should have an M20 (belt). Later M50 loaded models have a chain.
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Old 05-27-2013, 10:51 PM   #24
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Well I learned something tonight....I avoid timing belts at all costs timing chains are virtually bulletproof. Although I do get paid to replace them all the time on some Honda but mainly VW/Audi.
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Old 05-27-2013, 10:53 PM   #25
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...and a timing belt. I don't care what the mileage is. I wouldn't driving around on a 23 year old belt.

Cool car, but that color is awful. Any other color but that!
Yea, with that low mileage it would need a ton of work. i prefer a car somewhat driven
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Old 05-27-2013, 10:54 PM   #26
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Well I learned something tonight, I avoid timing belts at all costs timing chains are virtually bulletproof. Although I get paid to replace th lol.em all the time
i prefer the same, thats one of the reason i bought my car. i dont mind a belt if the car is non-interference
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Old 05-27-2013, 11:00 PM   #27
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Yea, with that low mileage it would need a ton of work. i prefer a car somewhat driven
Agreed. Last year, I looked at a 55K mile E30 325is. Red on charcoal cloth interior. The car was awesome. But it was on the original belt and literally had no maintenance done. The guy knew what he had with a low mileage example, so it wasn't cheap. Had to walk away from it. It was just too much to get into once it started being driven.

Man, that color gets worse every time I open this thread. The link is like a car accident. I can't stop clicking on it. Keep your E46!
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I've been looking for a cheap 325is for a toy. The "is" are limited slip correct? Every once and a while they are on Craigslist for 2-3 grand with high mileage and needing something. I want to redo it anyways e30s rock.
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Agreed. Last year, I looked at a 55K mile E30 325is. Red on charcoal cloth interior. The car was awesome. But it was on the original belt and literally had no maintenance done. The guy knew what he had with a low mileage example, so it wasn't cheap. Had to walk away from it. It was just too much to get into once it started being driven.

Man, that color gets worse every time I open this thread. The link is like a car accident. I can't stop clicking on it. Keep your E46!
yup did the same on an e30.... i wanted an e30, decided id buy a e36.... couldnt find a decent one... stumbled upon my 46 for 3k....


its meh...


id still love a calypso rot 36
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I've been looking for a cheap 325is for a toy. The "is" are limited slip correct? Every once and a while they are on Craigslist for 2-3 grand with high mileage and needing something. I want to redo it anyways e30s rock.
I'm not an E30 expert, but I believe most, if not all, XXXis cars should have a LSD in them.

Most E30's need a LOT of work. I'd love to pick up another and have one for a weekend car. But they're so hard to find around here without huge amounts of rust, failing paint, and other high dollar or big annoyance fixes.
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I'm not an E30 expert, but I believe most, if not all, XXXis cars should have a LSD in them.

Most E30's need a LOT of work. I'd love to pick up another and have one for a weekend car. But they're so hard to find around here without huge amounts of rust, failing paint, and other high dollar or big annoyance fixes.
LS1/LQ e30 would be fun.
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All the e30's that were half decent were verts.... and i already have one non practical car...
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yup did the same on an e30.... i wanted an e30, decided id buy a e36.... couldnt find a decent one... stumbled upon my 46 for 3k....


its meh...


id still love a calypso rot 36
From someone who has had all Three...the E46 is the best daily driver if you can only have one car.

E30's are great. But as an only car, it's only for seriously hardcore enthusiasts, or hipsters that convince themselves it's cool enough to justify how archaic, unreliable, and overpriced they are. Fantastic fun car, but for a daily driver, not so much.

Not to mention, when you get out of an E30 and into an E46, the E46 feels *amazing*.
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From someone who has had all Three...the E46 is the best daily driver if you can only have one car.

E30's are great. But as an only car, it's only for seriously hardcore enthusiasts, or hipsters that convince themselves it's cool enough to justify how archaic, unreliable, and overpriced they are. Fantastic fun car, but for a daily driver, not so much.

Not to mention, when you get out of an E30 and into an E46, the E46 feels *amazing*.
well i have a go strait car... this one was supposed to be dd/autox duty... felt like the e30 could be tossed around easily
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well i have a go strait car... this one was supposed to be dd/autox duty... felt like the e30 could be tossed around easily
Tossed around, yes. But the suspension setup, the rear in particular, is inferior to the E36 and E46. The whole car is a lot looser and less reassuring to drive hard. They're a ton of fun though.

You can make an E30 able to handle well at autoX, and you can make one reliable as a DD. But to do those things, you're going to dump a lot of time into it, and a pretty decent amount of money. An E36 is technically a better starting point for both of those things. But it's kind of caught between being modern and being old, and doesn't have the charm of an E30. Still an amazing car, and a hell of a driver's car. But it's not an E30, if that's what you want.

For autoX, I prefer the E36, though no BMW is really a good autoX car. For DD, I prefer the E46. For a fun car to drive around when you know you don't have to rely on it, and you have something else to get into when you want to quit messing around in an old rattle box...E30 rules.
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Tossed around, yes. But the suspension setup, the rear in particular, is inferior to the E36 and E46. The whole car is a lot looser and less reassuring to drive hard. They're a ton of fun though.

You can make an E30 able to handle well at autoX, and you can make one reliable as a DD. But to do those things, you're going to dump a lot of time into it, and a pretty decent amount of money. An E36 is technically a better starting point for both of those things. But it's kind of caught between being modern and being old, and doesn't have the charm of an E30. Still an amazing car, and a hell of a driver's car. But it's not an E30, if that's what you want.

For autoX, I prefer the E36, though no BMW is really a good autoX car. For DD, I prefer the E46. For a fun car to drive around when you know you don't have to rely on it, and you have something else to get into when you want to quit messing around in an old rattle box...E30 rules.

great points thanks. i know bmws are not great for autox. im not running classes though, strictly for fun. the e46 seemed like a reasonable "choice" but it was really a last result. I drove it and had to buy it, just felt right. im a sucker for e28's e34's and e30's still :/
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I beg to differ that bmws are not good auto cross cars. The e30 in particular is pretty good. Yes the rear suspension is technically an inferior design to the newer bmws but it makes it so fun to drive. Nothing better than a little oversteer in those tight corners. It's a car you have to be awake to drive 10/10. The e46 is not the same in that manor.
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great points thanks. i know bmws are not great for autox. im not running classes though, strictly for fun. the e46 seemed like a reasonable "choice" but it was really a last result. I drove it and had to buy it, just felt right. im a sucker for e28's e34's and e30's still :/
The 2 big problems with autoX'ing an E46 are the lack of LSD and the weakness of the rear floor pan. That's the reason I simply refuse to take mine out there (that, and my E36 M3 is pretty decently modified at this point). But the E46 is a fantastic daily driver and you *can* autoX it. It's just a great all around car.

Grab an older BMW at some point. You'll absolutely love it. But I personally wouldn't get rid of an E46 to have one. Not as a DD.

I love my E46. As a daily driver, it's been very reliable, it's extremely comfortable, great on gas, and very refined. And don't discount the fact that its safer. DSC has saved me a few times (ever hit a patch of black ice on the highway in an E30?), and should the airbags and tensioners ever need to fire, it's nice to know they're there.

Your mustang sounds like a fair bit of fun, BTW.
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The 2 big problems with autoX'ing an E46 are the lack of LSD and the weakness of the rear floor pan. That's the reason I simply refuse to take mine out there (that, and my E36 M3 is pretty decently modified at this point). But the E46 is a fantastic daily driver and you *can* autoX it. It's just a great all around car.

Grab an older BMW at some point. You'll absolutely love it. But I personally wouldn't get rid of an E46 to have one. Not as a DD.

I love my E46. As a daily driver, it's been very reliable, it's extremely comfortable, great on gas, and very refined. And don't discount the fact that its safer. DSC has saved me a few times (ever hit a patch of black ice on the highway in an E30?), and should the airbags and tensioners ever need to fire, it's nice to know they're there.

Your mustang sounds like a fair bit of fun, BTW.
No DSC here, got the ASC. If i get bored one day maybe ill hack out the back floor and weld up a mini cage for the subframe issues... Im feeling like ive out grown the mustang... ive put alot of time in to it... but it gives me headaches to drive it and hell it rattled a caliper bolt out at one time Its just an obnoxious car. Also 9mpg isnt really fun... The car doesent know what it wants to be... Its a Cruiser/Show/Racecar... Its too fast to run at a track without a cage... i dont want a cage in a street car, if i get in an accident my head is toast with a cage... Its a confused child


On another note... my 46 may be totaled... hit a dead deer on a dark road.
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I beg to differ that bmws are not good auto cross cars. The e30 in particular is pretty good. Yes the rear suspension is technically an inferior design to the newer bmws but it makes it so fun to drive. Nothing better than a little oversteer in those tight corners. It's a car you have to be awake to drive 10/10. The e46 is not the same in that manor.
I suppose "good" is relative. But BMW's generally have long wheelbases for their size and are built around high speed cornering, as opposed to the low speed tight corners in an autoX course. They have slow steering racks, tendency to understeer, and long wheel bases...all things that are a hindrance on an autoX course.

AutoX a Miata, then see if you think an E30 is a good autoX car. I love E30's, but they're just not fast at that stuff without a decent amount of modification.
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