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Old 06-03-2013, 07:19 PM   #1
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So a quick backstory...I have been using a cannon point and shoot for a long time.
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Now it's old but got the job done just fine. Well my adorable 6 year old brother wanted to take pictures as well. Needless to say when I found out I wasn't to pleased being he some how scratched the lens. Now despite being dropped and abused this little camera still took nice enough pictures. Well now I can't take anything because it seems like the pictures are a bit fuzzy no matter what I do.

So I figure I'm looking to move up in the world and try to progress my skills past a point and shoot.

Most of what I'm shooting is cars durning shows, along with the usual family events. Meets tend to be low light while family events and big shows are bright. I also think I want to move towards something that can take video as well, but that's not really a necessity. Now most of the time ill do research before posting, for once I really haven't given this much thought. My friend recommended getting something similar to her Nikon, I believe it's a d3100.

Really I could just use some help from people who have more experience then myself.

Just looking for a few good recommendations on body's, and maybe a basic lens.

Price wise nothing crazy, lower is better as long as I'm not sacrificing quality. The goal is to get something I can keep for a while.


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I have a D5100 and love it. Far from mastering it by all means but my pictures come out great. Are you ready to lug around a small bag with the camera and lenses? I think it's worth it.
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I have a Nikon 1 J1, it can do HD Video (1080p) and slow motion video, and it takes very good pictures. I can show you some pictures upon request. Like SolidJake said, having extra lenses is a good idea, I only have two (10-30mm and 30-110mm) but I look to buy more in the future.

You can also get an underwater case for the J1, which is cool, but also expensive.

Give me a holler if you'd like to see some of the pictures/videos it takes, I'll definitely show you some stuff if you plan on going my direction.


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I have a D5100 and love it. Far from mastering it by all means but my pictures come out great. Are you ready to lug around a small bag with the camera and lenses? I think it's worth it.
In the research I've been doing it seems the d5100 has been spoken highly of.

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I have a Nikon 1 J1, it can do HD Video (1080p) and slow motion video, and it takes very good pictures. I can show you some pictures upon request. Like SolidJake said, having extra lenses is a good idea, I only have two (10-30mm and 30-110mm) but I look to buy more in the future.

You can also get an underwater case for the J1, which is cool, but also expensive.

Give me a holler if you'd like to see some of the pictures/videos it takes, I'll definitely show you some stuff if you plan on going my direction.


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I'm still not sure what route I'm going in. Just trying to do a lot of research at the moment. I am really just trying to avoid buying something and wishing I got something else.


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In the research I've been doing it seems the d5100 has been spoken highly of.



I'm still not sure what route I'm going in. Just trying to do a lot of research at the moment. I am really just trying to avoid buying something and wishing I got something else.


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Once I saw the first commercial for the J1, I had known I wanted it. I had been looking at the big ones such as the D70 and it was listed for $1,299+ so I went and played with the cameras on display at BestBuy and for the pictures I take (around the house, of the car, of the city) it's a great camera. I wouldn't mind grabbing one of the big ones, but for now the J1 really is great. I'd definitely recommend it.

You should try looking around some camera stores in your area and see what some of the professionals say, but you always have to worry about them trying to up-sell you.


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For the price of a Nikon D3100 you can get a D90. If you are just doing basic shooting (no sports or concerts)... then I would stick with the D5100 or D3100. If you are shooting a lot in low light then get the D90. The D90 focuses faster in low light. You can also find cheaper lenses to pair with the D90 like the 50mm f/1.8 D $112. The equivalent lens to the D5100 is the 50mm f/1.8 G which is $216. You can use the 50mm D type on a entry level Nikon, but you would have to manually focus the lens.


D90 is a step up from the D3100. It has some auto features and some pro like features. I recommend this to someone who is looking to get into photography and really gonna step up their game. And down the road maybe add more stuff to their camera. You can shoot with older lenses (savings) and you have more accessories available vs D3100/D5100. D90 w/18-105mm lens sells for $800 new. That's like getting the body for $400 and lens $400. The D90 body is $100 cheaper than the D5100.

http://www.adorama.com/INKD90K.html


D5100 sells for $600. You are limited in lenses (G-type aka autofocus in lens). Battery life is a little less than D90. Yeah you get more megapixels but really can you see all that? I have poster size prints from a 5mpeg camera.

http://www.adorama.com/INKD5100K.html


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have u take a look at canon yet , t4i is really good.. (for an entry level dslr)..

but if you want something like a pocket cam, try to take a look at lumix lx 5/7.. i really love my lumix... i mean, i can really make a good picture with small camera like that (instead of heavy dslr)


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For the price of a Nikon D3100 you can get a D90. If you are just doing basic shooting (no sports or concerts)... then I would stick with the D5100 or D3100. If you are shooting a lot in low light then get the D90. The D90 focuses faster in low light. You can also find cheaper lenses to pair with the D90 like the 50mm f/1.8 D $112. The equivalent lens to the D5100 is the 50mm f/1.8 G which is $216. You can use the 50mm D type on a entry level Nikon, but you would have to manually focus the lens.


D90 is a step up from the D3100. It has some auto features and some pro like features. I recommend this to someone who is looking to get into photography and really gonna step up their game. And down the road maybe add more stuff to their camera. You can shoot with older lenses (savings) and you have more accessories available vs D3100/D5100. D90 w/18-105mm lens sells for $800 new. That's like getting the body for $400 and lens $400. The D90 body is $100 cheaper than the D5100.

http://www.adorama.com/INKD90K.html


D5100 sells for $600. You are limited in lenses (G-type aka autofocus in lens). Battery life is a little less than D90. Yeah you get more megapixels but really can you see all that? I have poster size prints from a 5mpeg camera.

http://www.adorama.com/INKD5100K.html


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This is why I love e46f you guys are full of knowledge no matter what.

In the one night of research I was looking at the D5100 but then some reading it was recommended if ill be doing low light shooting the D5200 might be a better buy.

I also saw some videos taken on a 5200 with I believe an external mic and it was really nice.

This is a hard experience. Only thing I didn't like about the 5200 was its price tag. But I don't go cheap on anything so lol ill sick it up.

Ill look into the d90 today.


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have u take a look at canon yet , t4i is really good.. (for an entry level dslr)..

but if you want something like a pocket cam, try to take a look at lumix lx 5/7.. i really love my lumix... i mean, i can really make a good picture with small camera like that (instead of heavy dslr)


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The t4i was also something that I saw pop up a lot. I don't really mind a bigger camera at this point since I'm trying to ditch the point and shoot and really dive into this.

I've been looking a lot into Nikon because my friends is really nice so I figured is start with something I know.


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I would look at Canon T4i and G15 also.
Everyone is loving the cannon.


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I don't do a lot of video on my camera. So I can't comment too much in that area. But what I know is if you are looking to get a DSLR that shoots videos, make sure the stills are just as good. Remember that DSLR isn't the same as shooting with a P&S. When I do shoot a quick video, I'm relying mostly on the camera auto settings and the lighting in the room. Also, from what I've read Canon DSLR handle video better.. Nikon has more lenses to choose from. That's if you stay away from the Nikon entry level cameras.


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I don't do a lot of video on my camera. So I can't comment too much in that area. But what I know is if you are looking to get a DSLR that shoots videos, make sure the stills are just as good. Remember that DSLR isn't the same as shooting with a P&S. When I do shoot a quick video, I'm relying mostly on the camera auto settings and the lighting in the room. Also, from what I've read Canon DSLR handle video better.. Nikon has more lenses to choose from. That's if you stay away from the Nikon entry level cameras.


If you in the Jersey area, take a trek to NYc and look around BH Photo or Adorama
Ya trying to find a good balance is a bit harder then I had thought. But I keep coming back to the 5200. It seems to do good video and what it lacks can be fixed after the fact.

A bit of sticker shock though lol
Found it for 700 with a few stupid extras


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This is why I love e46f you guys are full of knowledge no matter what.

The t4i was also something that I saw pop up a lot. I don't really mind a bigger camera at this point since I'm trying to ditch the point and shoot and really dive into this.

I've been looking a lot into Nikon because my friends is really nice so I figured is start with something I know.

Everyone is loving the cannon.

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I had Canon point and shoots (S50,S60,S70,S80), bought Nikon DSLR D60 and wasn't real impressed, bought a Canon DSLR XSi and liked it, did a side by side comparo with 2 kit lenses each and the Canon SMOKED the D60 with at the same price, returned the Nikon and never looked back.

I upgraded from XSi to T2i to 60D (not D60) and have been very happy.
Upgraded to 15-85mm IS USM, 70-300mm IS USM, 50mm f1.8 and 430EXII flash.

Once again, I would at least look at the G15. Under $500, small, low light, auto focus video, etc.
Read this 14 page review with sample pics....
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-powershot-g15


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Well I think I'm slowly narrowing it down. Probably shouldn't be doing cam research at work xD

But anyway, it's between the D5200 and T4i.

Was considering the t5i but found out its literally a t4 with some fluff lol

Leaning more towards the Nikon just because I like my friends 3200.

But my little cannon P&S was awesome so I can only imagine the dslr are even better.
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oh wait are you sure... I saw this today D90 w/kit lens for $600. Mind you..that the lens itself sells for $400 new. So you are getting the D90 for $200. That's around the same price as most P&S cameras. This is a NEW D90 w/ 18-105mm lens for $600

http://www.adorama.com/INKD90K.html?...urce=cj_552179

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oh wait are you sure... I saw this today D90 w/kit lens for $600. Mind you..that the lens itself sells for $400 new. So you are getting the D90 for $200. That's around the same price as most P&S cameras. This is a NEW D90 w/ 18-105mm lens for $600

http://www.adorama.com/INKD90K.html?...urce=cj_552179

If you gonna get it, act fast. As soon as this gets around the web, it will be gone.
Wow that's not bad, d90 with better glass is I'm going to say probably better than the d5200 with the normal 18-55.

Damn lol tempting I get paid tomorrow xD


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Yeah the 18-105mm lens has a nice range to start with. This will give you a nice zoom. 70mm is very usable range. 105mm not as much but still it's there.

The one thing that bugged me about Nikon entry level cameras... are The control dials. idk your skill level on DSLR cameras because it may not bother you. The thing that bugs me is that you have to go through an extra step when adjusting your Aperture/Shutter speed. Shutter speed you use the rear command dial. To change your aperture, you press and hold the exposure compensation button (-/+) and turn the rear command dial.


B&H Photo is selling the D90 kit for $849.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...al_Camera.html

I'm not trying to sell you on the D90 but I see a lot of my friends who start with the entry camera and 6 months down the road, wanting to step up to the next level DSLR. Their main two reason is more lens choices and more bells and whistles (top LCD, flash command mode, etc). But shoot $600 for DSLR. ... lol Now that I think about it, this is a tough call. If you are really sold on shooting a lot of video, definitely go with the D5200. If you need more still camera features, save some money and go with the D90. You still have video, but its only 720p.

What the D5200 has that the D90 doesn't is
HD 1080p Video
24 megapixels
39 Autofocus Points (not a huge selling point)


What the D90 has that D5200 doesn't
Depth of Field preview
More frames per second (4.5fps)
Better Battery Life
More accessories/lens choices esp. those that autofocus with the camera


I posted this link because the reviewer compares the D5200 with the newer D7000/D7100 which replaced the D90.
http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Ni.../verdict.shtml


Here is a recent video I shot with the D90 and 50mm lens. I'm standing on stage with the band. The sound that night was incredible. I can't remember if I shot the video in manual mode or auto.

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I don't know about now, but the Canon line used to have far superior video recording.
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Edit: D90 deal gone already lol
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So it would seem for $200 more I can get a D7000.

Not sure at the moment its worth it for me. Trying to find a good balance of affordability with something that will last a while. Would of got the D90 but it seems for $600 it didn't even last a few hours.
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