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Old 06-10-2013, 09:31 AM   #1
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So i decided go boost

I currently drive a 325i with 153k on it, head gasket was replaced and head machine at 145k due to vent valves, car has all maintenance done at 130k.

Now i got siting at home some small turbonetics t3/t4 turbine with treadstone oil feed line and return with all couplings, and also a treadstone intercooler!

And i was thinking to have a little of fun with my eurogirl(bmw).
What you guys this about this? Can the m54b25 be boosted, low boost around 5psi because is my daily driver and i don't want to push it to much.



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Old 06-10-2013, 10:28 AM   #2
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install all the hardware, then since you're so close, send it to nick g and have him tune it.
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:55 AM   #3
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So i decided go boost

I still need a couple more parts like piping, downpipe, bov and coupling for this, and have question too!
I never boost a bimmer before so can i use my stock injectors for 5psi or should i get bigger ones? Also what should i do with the piping to the intake? I just leave stock from maf to im and connect hard piping direct to maf ?


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Old 06-10-2013, 04:57 PM   #4
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Sell current hardware. Buy Technique Tuning kit. Have a qualified installer put it on. Enjoy your turbo bmw.

If you choose the diy route it will be more expensive in the long run.
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Old 06-10-2013, 05:08 PM   #5
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Sell current hardware. Buy Technique Tuning kit. Have a qualified installer put it on. Enjoy your turbo bmw.

If you choose the diy route it will be more expensive in the long run.

A BIG YES!

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Old 06-11-2013, 01:42 AM   #6
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it really depends if you can fabricate (weld, problem solve), have tools, motivated, and worth time vs money to do a custom setup. I went that route, and actually spent LESS than "nick G"s kit. plus my car makes more power, has safety features (that DME tuning does not) and I can go in and tweak settings..

If your not a tweaker, or have the time; buy a turbo "kit"
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Old 06-11-2013, 05:10 AM   #7
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So i decided go boost

I have the time and experience, i have boost around 5 car before 3 hondas 1 240sx and 1 2jz on a 300is.
And i really was looking for this technique tuning and i dont see any differences from a turbo kit.

My questions are do i have to remove the MAF? And what about vacuum lines on the F located on intake boots and the intake boots? Also the IACV stay open? If i can solve this i will boost it because piping is not a problem for me, i got a friend who can make then for me under 150$.
So how the car will work without parts mention before? And what kind of tuning i need to get for this?

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Old 06-11-2013, 08:46 AM   #8
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it really depends if you can fabricate (weld, problem solve), have tools, motivated, and worth time vs money to do a custom setup. I went that route, and actually spent LESS than "nick G"s kit. plus my car makes more power, has safety features (that DME tuning does not) and I can go in and tweak settings..

If your not a tweaker, or have the time; buy a turbo "kit"
Yes, you can build a quality turbo kit and run the car on a full standalone. The problem is, no matter how good of a tweaker you are, you will not have an OBD2 compliant car that will pass all of the readiness tests and most state inspections.
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:47 AM   #9
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I have the time and experience, i have boost around 5 car before 3 hondas 1 240sx and 1 2jz on a 300is.
And i really was looking for this technique tuning and i dont see any differences from a turbo kit.

My questions are do i have to remove the MAF? And what about vacuum lines on the F located on intake boots and the intake boots? Also the IACV stay open? If i can solve this i will boost it because piping is not a problem for me, i got a friend who can make then for me under 150$.
So how the car will work without parts mention before? And what kind of tuning i need to get for this?

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You will have an easier time trying to get it to run right with a draw through carburetor setup.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:01 AM   #10
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So i decided go boost

Im planing to leave stock tb, i dont want to make a huge hp just to hear the bov and a little more of push thats all, and not planing other force induction or other car because i love my eurogirl and dont want to over spend money on other stuff, since i got the most expensive parts already.

Do someone here who have boost its non M before can help?
I still dont know what to do.
I hear that you may disconnect the MAF and ride your car like that but never try it, and with the IACV just put a little ar filter in there and leave it like that, and F vacuum connector run it somewhere on the IM, but i want to know how people who boost it before did it and whats pro and cont! Thanks again
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:33 AM   #11
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Not trying to be a dick, but you will not get it to run correctly on the stock ecu without codes/issues. Just trying to save you the headache.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:11 AM   #12
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Im planing to leave stock tb, i dont want to make a huge hp just to hear the bov and a little more of push thats all, and not planing other force induction or other car because i love my eurogirl and dont want to over spend money on other stuff, since i got the most expensive parts already.

Do someone here who have boost its non M before can help?
I still dont know what to do.
I hear that you may disconnect the MAF and ride your car like that but never try it, and with the IACV just put a little ar filter in there and leave it like that, and F vacuum connector run it somewhere on the IM, but i want to know how people who boost it before did it and whats pro and cont! Thanks again
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You don't know what to do...it's already been said to you several times...sell the pieces and buy a technique tuning kit.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:11 AM   #13
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Sell current hardware. Buy Technique Tuning kit. Have a qualified installer put it on. Enjoy your turbo bmw.

If you choose the diy route it will be more expensive in the long run.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:26 AM   #14
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So i decided go boost

If i have to flash or change computer to run right i will do it, but i wont spend 6k+ on a technique tuning kit when it almost the same thing as a regular boost kit but they figure out what to do with thing im asking for thats all!
Before i pay 6k+ for that crap i sell my car buy an M3 and maybe i got some left over and no problems!
Thanks again for proposing it but for me the technique tuning is not an option and wont pay that much for it, i will prefer to buy AA sc kit will cost less and be more secure for my ride!
The only thing i don't know what to do is what i said before with MAF, IACV & F vacuum lines thats all, and I'm asking here because this is one on the few forum were people really help as a bmw community.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:31 AM   #15
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If i have to flash or change computer to run right i will do it, but i wont spend 6k+ on a technique tuning kit when it almost the same thing as a regular boost kit but they figure out what to do with thing im asking for thats all!
Before i pay 6k+ for that crap i sell my car buy an M3 and maybe i got some left over and no problems!
Thanks again for proposing it but for me the technique tuning is not an option and wont pay that much for it, i will prefer to buy AA sc kit will cost less and be more secure for my ride!
The only thing i don't know what to do is what i said before with MAF, IACV & F vacuum lines thats all, and I'm asking here because this is one on the few forum were people really help as a bmw community.
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Start listening...the only reliable way to tune the DME on this car for a turbo is Nick G...secondly the supercharger will net you very little in regards to power. Nick G sells a VERY awesome TT kit for this car and at the end of the day will be cheaper than the setup you're attempting to piece together.

Or you can go the full custom route and require a piggyback engine management setup...have fun spending less than 6k on the total kit now.

Seriously dude...pull your head out of your ass and listen.
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With the questions you are asking it show that you do not know what you are doing. That is why everyone is suggesting the TT kit
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:55 AM   #17
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I got you point but you dont get mines.
What the differences on that g tt kit to other turbo kit?
How they solve this issue?
A turbo kit doesn't have nothing to do with a ECM, unless they sell they own, which i will buy if i need to!
Why would i sell my turbo, intercooler bov and wastegate, that nobody will pay more that 1000$ to buy a turbo, intercooler, bov and wastegate from then at 6k thats ridiculous
I understand you and i dont want you to get mad and start calling me thing but this is common sense, why? What is different on then? How they solve this issue


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I got you point but you dont get mines.
What the differences on that g tt kit to other turbo kit?
How they solve this issue?
A turbo kit doesn't have nothing to do with a ECM, unless they sell they own, which i will buy if i need to!
Why would i sell my turbo, intercooler bov and wastegate, that nobody will pay more that 1000$ to buy a turbo, intercooler, bov and wastegate from then at 6k thats ridiculous
I understand you and i dont want you to get mad and start calling me thing but this is common sense, why? What is different on then? How they solve this issue


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The difference is the countless hours of R&D and the engine management. You can not have the turbo kit run on your car without Tuning or piggyback/ standalone ECU.
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I got you point but you dont get mines.
What the differences on that g tt kit to other turbo kit?
How they solve this issue?
A turbo kit doesn't have nothing to do with a ECM, unless they sell they own, which i will buy if i need to!
Why would i sell my turbo, intercooler bov and wastegate, that nobody will pay more that 1000$ to buy a turbo, intercooler, bov and wastegate from then at 6k thats ridiculous
I understand you and i dont want you to get mad and start calling me thing but this is common sense, why? What is different on then? How they solve this issue


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You don't get the point...and you don't get forced induction.
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:05 AM   #20
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So i decided go boost

Thats what you should tell me at the beginning and not just focus on my to buy it! When i have my set up complete i will go and tune with then if necessary or will find the way to doit, i know i cant put boost with out tune.

Have you boost your ride before?
Have any here boost before a non M?


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