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Old 06-11-2013, 06:13 PM   #41
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If it helps, I know three people that have sold their e46's and funny enough all bought Hondas.


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Old 06-11-2013, 06:33 PM   #42
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I can totally understand why. I'm sure 90%+ people out there don't know how to work on their cars, don't want to learn, or just don't want to. These are the people that take their cars in to the shops and dealers. They get raped by the dealers (and shops of course since it's a BMW) and they start kicking themselves asking why they bought a car that's so expensive when things go wrong.

I'll admit. I was the kind that didn't know how to work on the car so I paid a few times. Now, I browse these forums multiple times a day learning and trying to help people from what I've learned. Doing it yourself makes maintaining a BMW cheaper. Hell, I was even like this with my Japanese car. Didn't know how to work on it so brought it into the dealers whenever there was a problem.

For those people that don't want to even bother learning, they're always gonna have to pay $$$ and always complaining their cars are so expensive to maintain. That's because they didn't maintain it at all.

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Old 06-11-2013, 06:39 PM   #43
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I've owned 12 Hondas... Maybe 13? I forget at this point. Haha

I've seen both sides of the spectrum. I've had Hondas that last for YEARS and I've literally done nothing besides put gas in them and change the oil. And I've owned Hondas that I've needed to sink lots of money into. Chances are, you won't but a car is a car.

Keep in mind this is forum. Only a tiny percentage of BMW owners will ever post on here. And like anything else, they'll post the negative but not the positive. It's human nature. No one is gonna come on a car forum and say that they've had their BMW for years and never had a single issue. Same deal on a Honda forum. Look at the threads. It's all common problems/maintenance issues.

I've had my e46 since April. Since then I've replaced the tranny, rear window regulator, and some suspension components. Is it bcuz it's a BMW or the gamble of buying a 12 yr old car? Think about it....


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Old 06-11-2013, 06:40 PM   #44
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Even I you know how to work on cars BMW is more expensive, more sensors, more electronics synchronized with the mechanical components. My uncle who is a mechanic for a living replaced his 330i's engine himself, and his Honda civics engine. The difference is thousands of dollars. How I'm not trying to compare a civic to a 330i but in just saying, when it comes down to you needing an engine block or heads for your car. It's going to cost you way more. Sure you can do a lot of diy's but honestly, are you good enough to replace an engine yourself? If you do can you buy the entire engine without blinking?


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Old 06-11-2013, 06:43 PM   #45
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Sorry for the wrong words, iPhone autocorrect.


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Old 06-11-2013, 06:43 PM   #46
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^^^ Hondas are the easiest/cheapest engines to replace. I had it down to a science and could do a complete engine swap in 4 hrs. Not really a fair comparison, but I get your point.


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Old 06-11-2013, 06:57 PM   #47
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Old 06-11-2013, 07:08 PM   #48
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Leezy, you sure have replaced a lot of stuff. I hope you got a good deal on the car.


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Old 06-11-2013, 07:21 PM   #49
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Leezy, you sure have replaced a lot of stuff. I hope you got a good deal on the car.


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Only thing I paid for out of pocket was the window regulator.... The tranny was paid for by the dealer I bought the car from as was the suspension components


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Old 06-11-2013, 07:23 PM   #50
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Only thing I paid for out of pocket was the window regulator.... The tranny was paid for by the dealer I bought the car from as was the suspension components


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Old 06-11-2013, 07:33 PM   #51
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I came from honda to bmw too and I'm in same position as you, believe me it worth the cost but if only you know how to fix your bmw and got the tools and help of some people, but if you can don't get a bmw some times i think serious to sell bmw and get back on honda because of high cost maintenance, but little by little you start putting new part and avoid headaches! So decision is up to you! Here almost every body will offend you and say keep the bimmer, if you can afford it keep it, if you can't get rid of it because is going to drag your wallet with him! Trust me


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Old 06-11-2013, 08:32 PM   #52
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:59 PM   #53
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Jeez... Get over yourself, it's just a car.
Actually, around here, it's more of an obsession. I don't spend any time on the Kia or VW forums unless I have a problem with my other cars. I recently spent $2300 replacing the rear diff assembly on my Kia Sorento. I spent quite a while researching whether to keep it or sell it. With my Bimmer, there's really no question, as long as I can fix it for less than buying (edit: another E46, not "a new") Bimmer.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:02 PM   #54
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If it helps, I know three people that have sold their e46's and funny enough all bought Hondas.


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You know a few weirdos. I got rid of 2 Hondas around the time I bought the E46 and I'm certainly not going back there!
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:52 PM   #55
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:05 PM   #56
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:34 AM   #57
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Lol at the red civic! Here's the ad i posted on Craigslist. I live near Baltimore MD and im on a busy schedule so i cant drive out too far for someone to test drive the car.

http://baltimore.craigslist.org/cto/3864407979.html
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:53 AM   #58
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You know a few weirdos. I got rid of 2 Hondas around the time I bought the E46 and I'm certainly not going back there!
Nope, just college students.


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Old 06-12-2013, 02:11 AM   #59
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That red civic is so fly... I bet he gets all the honeys in that thing!
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:15 AM   #60
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$250 to change your brakes?

IF you DIY its about $60 and MAYBE an hour of your time if your not sure what your doing... little more if your changing the sensors too. Thats the difference in "normal" people owning a bmw and rich people... can you afford sending it to a shop every time it needs work? or are you willing to pop the hood and save yourself hundreds and possibly thousands of dollars by doing your own work. That is what makes a BMW affordable to some people in their eyes. The ability to do their own work. If i had to send my BMW to a shop every time i needed work I probably wouldn't be driving a BMW...
1. I appreciate the rant but you are way off. I am not rich by any means and have never taken my BMW to a shop since getting a PPI 2 years ago.

2. I DIY'ed my brakes (I have DIY'ed everything so far, cooling system, valve cover gasket, OFHG, vanos oil line, fluid changes, spark plugs, vacuum hoses, and next week I'll be cleaning my idle valve whatever it's called and changing my transmission fluid)

3. I bought OEM rotors and Textar pads + sensor + fluid + tools for the job hence the $250 estimate. ( (I probably shouldn't have used the word "bill" to describe paying $250 for the brakes). Besides, $250 is cheap for a shop if you consider the rotors as well.

4. I had to spend a lot for the Civic's head gasket because at the time I had no experience working on cars, no place to work on the car even if I did and needed the car asap because I have no other means of transportation.

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