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Old 06-19-2013, 06:59 AM   #1
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NYC Proposed Bill: Ban cops from identifying a suspect’s age, gender, color...

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Cops might as well wear blindfolds if the City Council passes a bill that would let them use little more than the color of a suspect’s clothing in descriptions — or risk being sued for profiling, according to this provocative new ad (pictured) from the NYPD captains union.

The ad asks, “How effective is a police officer with a blindfold on?”

And the answer is not very, says the NYPD Captains Endowment Association, which is fighting the measure, claiming it would handcuff cops and send crime rates soaring.

Union President Roy Richter — who is seen in the ad wearing a blindfold in Times Square — told The Post the bill is dangerous because “it will ban cops from identifying a suspect’s age, gender, color or disability.

“When we have wanted suspects and patterns of crimes, those are very important descriptive terms to let officers know who to look for.”

The ad warns that if cops transmit a description of a suspect that goes beyond the color of his or her clothing, they could be sued for racial profiling if the proposal becomes law.

The ad will appear in tomorrow’s Post, in addition to the union’s Web site, Twitter and Facebook — and provides links to contacts for City Council members to sway their vote on the measure.

The bill’s sponsor, Jumaane Williams (D-Brooklyn), and Speaker Christine Quinn are going to bypass normal committee process and bring the measure directly to a vote.

Detectives-union President Michael Palladino blasted Quinn for supporting the rare expedited process — and said his union plans to place ads in newspapers next week.

“The [union’s] ad will focus on . . . Speaker Quinn’s political decision to sell the security of all New Yorkers for votes. Where was the speaker and her legislation for the last seven years?” Palladino asked.

A rep for Quinn said she sent the proposals to a floor vote because a majority of council members supported it and Public Safety Committee chair Peter Vallone Jr. — an opponent — refused to let it out of committee.

PBA President Pat Lynch said the “so-called biased policing” package was a misnomer.

“Rather than focus on unnecessary laws, the council should be supporting its police officers — not attacking them,” he said.

“Racial profiling is already illegal — and should be.”

Williams and fellow Brooklyn Democrat Brad Lander, a co-sponsor of the proposal, say it would only expand the city’s existing racial-profiling law by adding other demographic groups that should be protected, such as the homeless and gay people.

They have said police are free, under the bill, to chase leads that include descriptions but cannot stop and frisk people based solely on those descriptions.

But the Bloomberg administration has warned that the bill could lead to an avalanche of lawsuits against the city by any members of a protected class who believe that they were profiled.
This sounds like a great idea, be on the lookout for a guy in a shirt, pants and with two shoes on!
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"Uh, yes, the suspect is identified as a person, either male or female, maybe a race, and is somewhere between a toddler and a blue hair....keep an eye out, copy that"
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Christine Quinn running for mayor, you'd think at some point minorities would get insulted at such obvious and superficial pandering that insults their intelligence.
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I'm glad we can all agree this is asinine.


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How is banning LEO's from describing a suspect by gender, age and color the right thing to do?
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How is banning LEO's from describing a suspect by gender, age and color the right thing to do?
How do we know that's what's really happening here? Any more sources? Details?
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How do we know that's what's really happening here? Any more sources? Details?
I'm just going off of what the union boss said:
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If that is true (which at this point we have no reason to believe it's not) how could this be seen as a good move?
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If that is true (which at this point we have no reason to believe it's not) how could this be seen as a good move?
But aren't unions lying scum? Oh, the conundrum. Picking sides between liberal blacks and unionized government workers...

I kid. We have very little to go on. I'd like to see the language of the bill before going nuts over this. Then there's also this part:
Williams and fellow Brooklyn Democrat Brad Lander, a co-sponsor of the proposal, say it would only expand the city’s existing racial-profiling law by adding other demographic groups that should be protected, such as the homeless and gay people.

They have said police are free, under the bill, to chase leads that include descriptions but cannot stop and frisk people based solely on those descriptions.
Depending on which quote you want to give more credence...

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Just an example of union thuggery.
These union members as releasing Personally Identifiable Information without the knowledge and consent of the person they are collecting it from. How dare they.
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How is banning LEO's from describing a suspect by gender, age and color the right thing to do?
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“The [union’s] ad will focus on . . . Speaker Quinn’s political decision to sell the security of all New Yorkers for votes. Where was the speaker and her legislation for the last seven years?” Palladino asked.
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A patently dopey bill which should die a quick death. Good for the union, and many others, for pointing the inanity of it and standing up against it.
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Glad they're doing this. We wouldn't want anyone to feel bad!

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75% chance the violent crime is committed by an african american in NYC.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1332840
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75% chance the violent crime is committed by an african american in NYC.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1332840
Highest offender profile in the US is 17-24yo (Crime Prone Age Group) and African American. (Proportionally more crime per capita)

But I'm racist for pointing out facts.
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Highest offender profile in the US is 17-24yo (Crime Prone Age Group) and African American. (Proportionally more crime per capita)

But I'm racist for pointing out facts.
Using statistics to make a race-related comment : must be racist.

Sh*t, I just made a comment in a thread that mentioned the word "racism".. and I'm white. I'll put on my flaming-racist-retardant-suit.
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Highest offender profile in the US is 17-24yo (Crime Prone Age Group) and African American. (Proportionally more crime per capita)

But I'm racist for pointing out facts.
You're not racist for citing statistics. However, one might consider you racist for highlighting a statistics that would otherwise paint a certain demographic in an unfavorable light with providing zero context as to how it pertains to this thread.
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Using statistics to make a race-related comment : must be racist.

Sh*t, I just made a comment in a thread that mentioned the word "racism".. and I'm white. I'll put on my flaming-racist-retardant-suit.
This is why people think you're racist, not because you're quoting "statistics".

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As a white prep school kid coming from your very traditional catholic family, I am not into it at all. I don't see anything against it (although it does kind of bug me for the reasons presented below), but I wouldn't ever do so myself. I simply don't find girls of other ethnicity attractive (don't even try and claim that this is racism or i will hunt you down and kill you as it is the exact same thing as saying im not attracted to girls with red hair).

The reason I am not a fan of it... I feel like a great deal of other ethnicities (black, middle easter, etc) are attracted to white girls thus creating a larger demand for the type of girls I am into.

Mathematicly, Greater Demand = Greater Competition = Lower Succes Rates in me finding a girl i really like that fits into my "ideal girl"

And at the same time, I dont' see a great deal of white guys dating girls outside of their ethnicity (at lesat not in my socio-economic area [preppy, intelligent 20+ years olds in washington, dc & bethesda, md]).

Summary: So basicly interracial dating is doing nothign but hurting my chances by increasing the number of competitors i have but isn't adding at all to my potential dating pool.

Interacial dating blows in my opinion (not that i have anything against it) only because it hurts my odds with the ladies and doesn't help me out at all


PS: And if ANYONE tries and plays the race card, I will kill you as I have nothing against anyone of other ethnicities, cultural backgrounds, creeds, etc, i just don't like the impact that it has (in terms of interracial dating) on my dating scene
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