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Old 06-26-2013, 11:39 AM   #41
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Stop and frisk is not unconstitutional in and of itself. The NYC ruling dealt with stops where there was not a reasonable suspicion of illegal activity in progress--the police were stopping and frisking people on suspicion of trespassing, but the people stopped were actually outside of the building (and thus not trespassing).
The police were doing more than just stopping on suspicion. What was actually going on amounted to intimidation, harassment and profiling of many. And as an officer if you didn't agree with the practice, you got reprimanded by your superiors for not meeting a quota.

What was actually happening is illegal and unconstitutional. Just because you wear a badge does not mean you are above the law.
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The police were doing more than just stopping on suspicion. What was actually going on amounted to intimidation, harassment and profiling of many. And as an officer if you didn't agree with the practice, you got reprimanded by your superiors for not meeting a quota.

What was actually happening is illegal and unconstitutional. Just because you wear a badge does not mean you are above the law.
Agreed. I just wanted to clarify that this was not a typical stop and frisk, which is still legal as long as there's reasonable suspicion of illegal activity. In this case the cops were clearly hiding behind SAF in order to intimidate and harass (trespassing? Really?).
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Agreed. I just wanted to clarify that this was not a typical stop and frisk, which is still legal as long as there's reasonable suspicion of illegal activity.
And I am perfectly okay with the practice assuming it meets those guidelines.
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