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Old 06-27-2013, 09:39 PM   #41
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They stopped teaching it these days probably. Everything is about equality, fairness, and coexistence in schools.
I never had to read it, but we discussed the book and the terminology. I thought it was part of the vernacular, I'm honestly surprised by this.
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:45 PM   #42
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Not sure what you're ranting about, so simmer down your jimmies and try and glue a coherent sentence together.
Try reading it again -that's not the context in which people use that particular epithet. I see that you are trying to disparage blacks by saying that they demean others for being successful, which isn't the case. Typical of you trying to sneak that overt implication, and we know that it isn't even remotely true.
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:46 PM   #43
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Try reading it again -that's not the context in which people use that particular epithet. I see that you are trying to disparage blacks by saying that they demean others for being successful, which isn't the case. Typical of you trying to sneak that overt implication, and we know that it isn't even remotely true.
Unsuccessful people jealously tearing down friends and relatives who are successful is not phenomenon unique to black people. It happens across all races.
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Google "Is Bill Cosby an Uncle Tom?" and see how many things pop up. Pretty much if anyone who is black does not support "The Struggle" they are labeled as an Uncle Tom.
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Most everyone who has spent some time in the south, knows what a redneck, cracker, honky and uncle tom refers to.
I'm color blind when it comes to race. People tell me I'm white. And I have to trust them on that.

I guess it never stood out because I never participated in such conversations
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I'm color blind when it comes to race. People tell me I'm white. And I have to trust them on that.

I guess it never stood out because I never participated in such conversations
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Unsuccessful people jealously tearing down friends and relatives who are successful is not phenomenon unique to black people. It happens across all races.
People aren't going to Call Lil Wayne an Uncle Tom for being successful - It's a disparaging comment used particularly when it's believed that the person in question is considered to 'betray' their 'racial' allegiance. Usually you'll see this happen when someone pushes against popular societal norms or placing blame for social-economic issues on the internal community as a whole.
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People aren't going to Call Lil Wayne an Uncle Tom for being successful - It's a disparaging comment used particularly when it's believed that the person in question is considered to 'betray' their 'racial' allegiance. Usually you'll see this happen when someone pushes against popular societal norms or placing blame for social-economic issues on the internal community as a whole.
Eh, my post was more of a general observation, not necessarily about the correct context of the use of "Uncle Tom." FWIW, in my experience it gets used "incorrectly" at times by people of all races. I suppose at a certain point the term takes on a generalized secondary meaning.
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you can't be racist if you're for progress, except when those stupid niaggers vote for republicans, mIrite?????
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Why is it that any black who votes republican, supports a conservative view, is against welfare dependence, against obamacare, higher taxes, voter ID, etc. demeaned by other blacks.
I'm not talking about an "uncle Tom", I mean ANY BLACK who goes against the democratic norm is blasted, flamed, ridiculed, etc., by other blacks.

Can a black person have their on independent view on a political matter?
Why are they just expected to follow along as good sheeple and be part of the crowd. Are they not allowed to think for themselves?
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Why is it that any black who votes republican, supports a conservative view, is against welfare dependence, against obamacare, higher taxes, voter ID, etc. demeaned by other blacks.
I'm not talking about an "uncle Tom", I mean ANY BLACK who goes against the democratic norm is blasted, flamed, ridiculed, etc., by other blacks.

Can a black person have their on independent view on a political matter?
Why are they just expected to follow along as good sheeple and be part of the crowd. Are they not allowed to think for themselves?
Are you suggesting this mindset is exclusive to Black Americans?


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Why is it that any middle class white male who votes Democrat, supports a liberal view, is for welfare dependence, for obamacare, higher taxes, against voter ID, etc. is demeaned by other middle class white males?

Why is it that any Catholic that supports abortions being legal is demeaned by other Catholics?

Why is it that any person of Hispanic lineage that supports a crackdown on illegal immigration is demeaned by other Hispanics?

C'mon man. Every group wants all their members to toe the party line, not to rock the boat. Every group wants to keep discussions simple by presenting a unified front.

"Uncle Tom" is a term unique to blacks. But the concept of considering someone a "traitor" to some cause simply because they don't fit neatly into the demographic mold isn't monopolized by any group.
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Why is it that any middle class white male who votes Democrat, supports a liberal view, is for welfare dependence, for obamacare, higher taxes, against voter ID, etc. is demeaned by other middle class white males?

Why is it that any Catholic that supports abortions being legal is demeaned by other Catholics?

Why is it that any person of Hispanic lineage that supports a crackdown on illegal immigration is demeaned by other Hispanics?

C'mon man. Every group wants all their members to toe the party line, not to rock the boat. Every group wants to keep discussions simple by presenting a unified front.

"Uncle Tom" is a term unique to blacks. But the concept of considering someone a "traitor" to some cause simply because they don't fit neatly into the demographic mold isn't monopolized by any group.
yea not so much, you're speaking far too generally. There are specific personal things that happen when minorities and women wander off the plantation.
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yea not so much, you're speaking far too generally. There are specific personal things that happen when minorities and women wander off the plantation.
Like being shunned by your religious community or excommunicated by your church isn't personal.


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show me where that regularly happens simply because someone is pro choice.
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CATHOLICS IN 12 GROUPS EXCOMMUNICATED IN NEBRASKA.

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As of Wednesday, a former priest and nun and perhaps hundreds of other Roman Catholics in the Lincoln Diocese can consider themselves excommunicated.

Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz ordered Catholics to quit 12 proscribed groups, including Planned Parenthood, Call to Action and Catholics for a Free Choice, by Wednesday or face the spiritual equivalent of the death penalty.

Bruskewitz, who announced the order in the diocese newspaper in March, is the first U.S. bishop in recent church history to threaten mass excommunication.

Under excommunication, Catholics may attend Mass but are forbidden to receive Holy Communion or other sacraments, such as marriage in the church.

The bishop won't formally record who is excommunicated or notify them individually, and has said he has no way of knowing whether someone is heeding the ban on receiving the sacraments. That will be left to the person's conscience, he said.

John Krejci, the former priest, and his wife, Jean, a former nun, said they will defy the order.

``We will be receiving communion. We don't intend to change our style,'' Krejci said. The couple belongs to Call to Action, a group that wants the church to discuss allowing women and married men to become priests - issues that Pope John Paul II has said are closed.

Another Call to Action member, Jim McShane, said he wouldn't quit the group, but he refused to say whether he would defy the bishop and still take the sacraments. ``I think he's shot his cannon and he's waiting for us to fall down,'' McShane said.

The Lincoln Diocese has about 85,000 members. It is considered a conservative diocese; it does not allow girls to serve at the altar. Although there is no exact number of people affected by the excommunication order, hundreds of Catholics are estimated to belong to the banned groups.

With the arrival of the deadline Wednesday, Monsignor Timothy Thorburn, chancellor of the Lincoln Diocese, said of the bishop's order: ``The legislation still is in its full effect. It's well known.''

A person who is excommunicated can return to good standing in the church by obeying the bishop's order, confessing and receiving forgiveness through penance.

Bruskewitz said earlier this week that his order succeeded in ``unmasking some people who previously had a very questionable relationship with the Catholic Church.''

``They may have been in their heart anti-Catholic, though they externally professed to be Catholic,'' he said.
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yea not so much, you're speaking far too generally. There are specific personal things that happen when minorities and women wander off the plantation.
Such as? Serious question. I don't bide my time brooding about race relations like you do, so I'm actually curious.
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Such as? Serious question. I don't bide my time brooding about race relations like you do, so I'm actually curious.
I know plenty of practicing christians that are liberal and/or pro-choice. They are not kicked out of their churches. That's some fringe BS right there, if anything.

If a woman is conservative she is demeaned on her intelligence, looks and all insults are directly personal. If a black person is conservative he or she is demeaned on intelligence, looks, being an uncle tom, etc. It rings true all the time and it is never a general "oh I don't agree with him" type of thing. It is always visceral, personal and specific.

Look at what Clarence Thomas, Palin, BTO go through every day. The higher they get, power wise, the more immature and insulting it gets.

You really think Nancy Pelosi or Sara Boxer are intelligent? They say stupid stuff ALL day long and you never hear about it. BTO is a tax attorney and people talk about her like she flunked out of 4th grade. Clarence Thomas is a brilliant legal mind, whether or not you agree with him, and you'd think he was Samuel Jackson from Django.

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I know plenty of practicing christians that are liberal and/or pro-choice. They are not kicked out of their churches. That's some fringe BS right there, if anything.
The last Archbishop that St. Louis had told the Roman Catholics of St. Louis that they could not receive communion in good conscious if they voted for BHO, or any Democrat, for that matter. If they did in the past, they would have to go to confession in order to get back on the good side. That's not getting the ex-com, but that's pretty over the line, in my opinion.

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If a woman is conservative she is demeaned on her intelligence, looks and all insults are directly personal. If a black person is conservative he or she is demeaned on intelligence, looks, being an uncle tom, etc. It rings true all the time and it is never a general "oh I don't agree with him" type of thing. It is always visceral, personal and specific.

Look at what Clarence Thomas, Palin, BTO go through every day. The higher they get, power wise, the more immature and insulting it gets.
This doesn't happen to Michelle Obama? Hillary? Pelosi? You need to get out more, me thinks.

For the record, Pelosi is a dolt, as is Palin and they both deserve all of the jokes that they get. Just wanted to get that out there.


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