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Old 06-28-2013, 05:40 AM   #1
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Gov Perry uses Sen Wendy Davis story to question her abortion stance Prompts backlash

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GRAPEVINE — Gov. Rick Perry gave a spirited defense Thursday of Republican proposals to curtail abortions, telling a national anti-abortion group that he would not “make things easy for abortionists.”

He also criticized Sen. Wendy Davis, the Democrat whose filibuster Tuesday helped kill the legislation, in unusually personal terms.

“I’m proud that she has been able to take advantage of her intellect and her hard work, but she didn’t come from particularly good circumstances,” the Republican governor said during a news conference. “What if her mom had said, ‘You know, I just can’t do this, I don’t want to do this.’ At that particular point and time, it becomes very personal for us.”

Perry was quickly pilloried by Democrats. Davis, who was raised by a single mother, said his statement was “without dignity and tarnishes the high office he holds.”

“They are small words that reflect a dark and negative point of view,” the Fort Worth Democrat said in a written statement.

The exchange comes in a highly charged atmosphere that follows the stormy special session that ended Tuesday when Davis, backed by hundreds of supporters in the Senate gallery, staged her dramatic filibuster to halt the anti-abortion legislation.

The measure would have banned abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy and set tough new standards for clinics, doctors and the abortion pill. Democrats contended that it would have forced all but a few Texas abortion clinics to close.

Texas is now center stage in the abortion debate, with national attention lingering from the dramatic end to the session. Republicans vow to continue to push aggressively to restrict the procedure, while outnumbered Democrats are searching for a way to stop them in the next special session, which Perry has set to begin Monday.

Perry’s appearance at the National Right to Life convention reflected the unapologetic determination to shake off Davis’ victory and make Texas the most restrictive state in the nation for abortions.

“We are under no obligation to make things easy for abortionists,” Perry said. “The ideal world is a world without abortion.”

Echoing other Republicans, such as Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst, he cast the filibuster as aided by an angry mob of political activists, suggesting those streaming into the Capitol to support Davis late Tuesday were an organized political group.

“They’ll resort to mob tactics to force their minority agenda on the people of Texas,” Perry said. “What we witnessed Tuesday was the hijacking of the democratic process.”

Democrats say Perry and other Republicans should heed the response of Texans who think the GOP has gone too far.

“He should have been able to hear loud and clear that Texans don’t want this bill,” said Rep. Chris Turner, an Arlington Democrat who is a Davis ally. “The people showed up and spoke up. That’s what democracy is all about.”

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Though most of Perry’s speech was about the anti-abortion agenda, it was his comments about Davis that sent a buzz through the political world.

Davis, whose filibuster made her an instant national star, has inspired people with her story of rising from poverty and being a divorced mother at age 19 to become a Harvard-trained lawyer and popular public servant.

On Thursday, Perry tried to turn her biography against her.

“It’s just unfortunate that she hasn’t learned from her own example, that every life must be given the chance to meet its own potential,” Perry said in his speech.

He contended that Davis’ actions amounted to a defense of Philadelphia abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell, whose murder trial featured gruesome evidence of illegal late-term abortions.

“Wendy is on the Senate floor … stopping legislation that would keep clinics like that from operating,” Perry said later.

Davis did not comment on the allegation. Democrats have scoffed at such comparisons. They say Texas abortion clinics are already tightly regulated and note that Dewhurst, for one, has bragged that the legislation up for debate would force clinics to close, even while Republicans say they are focused on women’s health and safety.

Turner and other Democrats called on Perry to apologize.

“His personal attack on Senator Davis is outrageous and disgraces the office the governor holds,” state party Chairman Gilberto Hinojosa said in a fundraising appeal. “But it’s not out of character for Perry, who constantly shows just how little regard he has for Texan women.”

Tarrant County Republican Party Chairman Jennifer Hall declined to comment on Perry’s statements about Davis, saying she hadn’t reviewed them. But she said she supported Perry’s call for another special session.

“What happened Tuesday was uncalled for,” she said.

Abbott’s speech

Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, a Republican, also appeared before the National Right to Life convention. Afterward, he declined to answer a reporter’s question about Davis or her filibuster.

In his speech, Abbott lauded Texas’ strict abortion laws, such as requiring a minor to receive parental consent before an abortion and requiring doctors to perform sonograms before abortions. The crowd gave him a standing ovation when he described the Legislature’s efforts to pull taxpayer funding from Planned Parenthood’s women’s health clinics.

The looming return to the Capitol has battle-weary lawmakers on edge. Sen. Royce West, D-Dallas, skipped the opportunity to bash Perry for his remarks but issued a clarion call.

“If people are truly interested in this issue, they need to show up,” he said. “They need to make their voices heard.”
Gov. Perry's heart was in the right place.
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No reason to sidestep the democratic process. Take the vote to the people.
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No reason to sidestep the democratic process. Take the vote to the people.
These are duly elected officials. How is this sidestepping the democratic process?
State Sen Davis was elected by a vote of the people (of the Fort Worth area) to represent them. She did just that. The people in the gallery made their voices heard.

If you want to get rid of a republic based on representational democracy, just have the nerve to come out and say so. Of course, you might want to try and amend the US constitution and the Texas state constitution while your at it.
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These are duly elected officials. How is this sidestepping the democratic process?
State Sen Davis was elected by a vote of the people (of the Fort Worth area) to represent them. She did just that. The people in the gallery made their voices heard.

If you want to get rid of a republic based on representational democracy, just have the nerve to come out and say so. Of course, you might want to try and amend the US constitution and the Texas state constitution while your at it.
Abortion is a state's issue (for now.) I would rather have the people vote on it, then some politician deciding it for the rest of us. Don't like it? Leave the state. I didn't like NY laws, so I left. I am starting to hate NJ laws, so Im going to move again.
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Abortion is a state's issue (for now.) I would rather have the people vote on it, then some politician deciding it for the rest of us. Don't like it? Leave the state. I didn't like NY laws, so I left. I am starting to hate NJ laws, so Im going to move again.
And the people of Texas have a representational democracy. That is Texas State Constitution. The people of Texas did vote on it when the elected their state House and Senate.

If they want a referendum, there is a process for it. The citizens of Texas can decide if they want to do that, and abide by the rules of their state constitution to do so.

There is this belief that everything should be a direct vote of the people, and the removal of representative democracy.. OK. It is just not the way most state's or the US constitution are implemented. If the people really want that, than let them amend the US or their state constitution. Is there anything wrong with asking folks to abide by the rules?
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If only the GOP spent more time empowering their citizens with education and alternatives to abortion (i.e., adoption or safe-havens) along with more affordable/accessible forms of birth control they can actually do something to limit the number of abortions that take place.

That being said, Perry's statements were classless.
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And the people of Texas have a representational democracy. That is Texas State Constitution. The people of Texas did vote on it when the elected their state House and Senate.

If they want a referendum, there is a process for it. The citizens of Texas can decide if they want to do that, and abide by the rules of their state constitution to do so.
All very true. And at least for now, Texans might actually be able to rely on their elected representatives - and the unelected bureaucrats - to enforce and defend the results of such a referendum. Unlike California, of course.
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All very true. And at least for now, Texans might actually be able to rely on their elected representatives - and the unelected bureaucrats - to enforce and defend the results of such a referendum. Unlike California, of course.
Get your facts straight. Rather than the biased, right-wing media machine.

The state of California has enforced and continues to enforce Prop 8 until the stay on same-sex marriage put in place by the court is lifted. (About another 3 weeks for the paperwork to be completed.)

The state of California did defend Prop 8. The case was Perry vs Schwarzenegger.

If the folks who wrote the Prop 8 referendum didn't understand it was a violation of constitutional rights (see the ruling in Perry vs Schwarzenegger) perhaps they should have a better understanding of the constitution, rather than expecting the courts to legislate from the bench.
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Perry is a straight-up POS. His political career is over.
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Perry is a straight-up POS. His political career is over.
Not in Texas.
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“I’m proud that she has been able to take advantage of her intellect and her hard work, but she didn’t come from particularly good circumstances,” the Republican governor said during a news conference. “What if her mom had said, ‘You know, I just can’t do this, I don’t want to do this.’
Lawdy, is it something in the GOP genetic code -- misogynistic at worst, condescending paternalism at best -- that causes them to stick their foot in it anytime they open their mouths about anything having to do with women or reproduction, or God forbid both in the same reference?

I think Davis summed it up well, “They are small words that reflect a dark and negative point of view.”
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I see nothing wrong with his comments and find it hilarious that people are getting bent out of shape about it.
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Not in Texas.
Texans are proud - stupid, but proud. Eventually the ridicule will be so deafening that they'll tire of supporting this idiot.
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Get your facts straight...The state of California did defend Prop 8. The case was Perry vs Schwarzenegger.
My facts are exactly straight, whereas your spin is cleverly deceptive, or woefully ignorant. Which one, I don't know, but I will assume that "esq" in your name alludes to a JD, and that therefore you have post-graduate training in how to spin the facts to the point of distortion.

The State did defend Prop 8 until they got a verdict they liked - the strike-down in 2010 on the basis of 14th Amendment equal protection. Then the State dropped it, which left it up to other citizens to take up the battle. The USSC this week ruled only that those citizens did not have standing; the USSC did not even consider the constitutionality of the 2010 decision. End of the road for them.

But I get it - you are comfortable with the political players deciding for themselves which laws to enforce and defend when such actions suit your left-wing bias. And I am sure you will not weigh in at all when the tables are turned.
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My facts are exactly straight, whereas your spin is cleverly deceptive, or woefully ignorant. Which one, I don't know, but I will assume that "esq" in your name alludes to a JD, and that therefore you have post-graduate training in how to spin the facts to the point of distortion.
The 'esq' refers to not being a member of the landed gentry. It's the original use of of the term. Why lawyers have absconded with it, I have no idea.

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The State did defend Prop 8 until they got a verdict they liked - the strike-down in 2010 on the basis of 14th Amendment equal protection. Then the State dropped it, which left it up to other citizens to take up the battle. The USSC this week ruled only that those citizens did not have standing; the USSC did not even consider the constitutionality of the 2010 decision. End of the road for them.
They defended the suit until it reached the federal courts. And let us pretend for a moment that Judge Walker had ruled in the opposite direction. The state would have accepted that verdict as well, or do you believe the State would have appealed that decision? If this really was some grand conspiracy by the state, as the ring-wing bias is b!tching about, they could have stopped defending it at any time. They could have refused to defend it in federal court. Just not shown up to the trial. But, they didn't. Perhaps you should really familiarize yourself with the Perry case before you go b!tching about what the state did or didn't do. Perhaps you prefer to be spoon fed by the right-wing media machine. Don't know, and don't really give a damn. Prop 8 got rolled and the ruling that applies is that it is unconstitutional. When some "traditional family values" zealot can bring a valid case, with standing, to the the courts and have it reach the USSC, more power to them. That might be a little difficult, since that "traditional family values" zealot would have to show that same-sex marriage in Cali has caused them substantive damage or harm. Lots of luck with that.

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But I get it - you are comfortable with the political players deciding for themselves which laws to enforce and defend when such actions suit your left-wing bias. And I am sure you will not weigh in at all when the tables are turned.
I have been around a long time. Been following politics since the early 70's. If you think this is the first time "political players" have ever stopped pursuing a case, whether they one or lost, before it reached the USSC you clearly have no clue. That is the way the system works. It doesn't always work out they way you might want it to. So what do you do? Suck it up, buttercup and move on. Ya win some and ya lose some.

The truth is that the anti-same-sex marriage camp is being pi$$y because they lost.

The USSC has looked for every opportunity to dodge the same-sex marriage issue. Prop 8, they found, some would say created, a reason to kick it out and not have to rule on the state level. The federal DOMA suit, they couldn't dodge. And look what happened. Low and behold, the law and the language of the law, that is virtually the same language for every state DOMA law, was ruled unconstitutional and a violation of the 5th and 14th amd.

Read Thomas' dissenting opinion in the Federal DOMA case. It is the best argument the pro-DOMA camp has. ("Well...this idea of same-sex marriage hasn't been an acceptable idea for very long so we should wait." Of course completely ignoring that the same argument applied to inter-racial marriage when the USSC ruled prohibitions on inter-racial marriage unconstitutional in Loving vs Virgina.) Do you really think if push came down to shove and the USSC had no choice but to rule on Prop 8, their ruling wouldn't have been the same result as the Federal DOMA?
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I think his comments lacked a certain tact, but at the same time, it drives right to the point that pro-life people make when they justify their stance on abortion. Give the kid a chance. The real issue is that there needs to be a greater attention devoted towards adoption and financial assistance for single mothers. If you wanna severely limit abortion, a potential mom has to be guaranteed the ability to give up her child as a ward of the state or an adoptee.
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more financial assistance for single mothers????? EFF THAT
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more financial assistance for single mothers????? EFF THAT
And by extension, EFF her kid(s) too, consigning them to poverty and all that results from that, which typically ends up costing society far, far more in the long run than if we ante'd up to give junior a decent healthy upbringing, regardless of the marital status of the mother (never married, divorced, widowed, whatever). I would much rather pay a bit up front for a decent result than a lot more down the road (lost wages and taxes due to less productivity, greater health care costs, legal and prison systems, etc.) as a society.

Also, this *****rdly approach only tends to encourage a resort to abortion, which I presume would be the diametrically opposite result that right to lifers on the right would desire.
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And by extension, EFF her kid(s) too, consigning them to poverty and all that results from that, which typically ends up costing society far, far more in the long run than if we ante'd up to give junior a decent healthy upbringing, regardless of the marital status of the mother (never married, divorced, widowed, whatever). I would much rather pay a bit up front for a decent result than a lot more down the road (lost wages and taxes due to less productivity, greater health care costs, legal and prison systems, etc.) as a society.

Also, this *****rdly approach only tends to encourage a resort to abortion, which I presume would be the diametrically opposite result that right to lifers on the right would desire.
I prefer abortion 100.00% of the time. Your argument just creates a downward spiral, no responsibility for anyone (except those of us that get up, go to work, and pay taxes).
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