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Old 07-03-2013, 12:32 PM   #101
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Cancer costs projected to reach at least $158 billion in 2020.

Based on growth and aging of the U.S. population, medical expenditures for cancer in the year 2020 are projected to reach at least $158 billion (in 2010 dollars) - an increase of 27 percent over 2010, according to a National Institutes of Health analysis. If newly developed tools for cancer diagnosis, treatment, and follow-up continue to be more expensive, medical expenditures for cancer could reach as high as $207 billion, said the researchers from the National Cancer Institute (NCI), part of the NIH. The analysis appears online, Jan. 12, 2011, in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute. -- Source
Projected. To put it into perspective, Obama promised 7 billion to various African nations to improve their power grid. Furthermore, how much of that 158 billion is UNPAID? Your figures are indicating treatment costs (drugs, surgeries, scans, etc)...your original point (if I understood you correctly) was that there are people that cannot afford cancer treatment right, so that's the figure we are interested in. As I stated earlier, THAT figure is an insignificant amount of money. That money that would have helped ALL the people in the form of hospital charity is instead eaten up by illegals 2 times over, by insane regulation compliance, drug/substance addicts, etc.
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:56 PM   #102
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Your figures are indicating treatment costs (drugs, surgeries, scans, etc)...your original point (if I understood you correctly) was that there are people that cannot afford cancer treatment right, so that's the figure we are interested in.
How the **** do you think cancer is treated? Holy ****!

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Old 07-03-2013, 12:58 PM   #103
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Doctors do tend to retire in their late 50's and 60's might retire. It's anyone's guess as to why.
See below. They refuse to put up with it and I can't blame them. We are facing a pretty big crisis in the next few years.

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/12/1...der-obamacare/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...osel/?page=all
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Old 07-03-2013, 01:03 PM   #104
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See below. They refuse to put up with it and I can't blame them. We are facing a pretty big crisis in the next few years.

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/12/1...der-obamacare/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...osel/?page=all
“What you’re hearing now is going to be: (a) anticipatory, and (b) purely anecdotal, because we don’t have data yet,” said Mr. Garthwaite, author of a 2012 research study on projected physician shortages. “You definitely hear doctors saying they’re going to work fewer hours, but I don’t know how much stock you can put in that.”
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How the **** do you think cancer is treated? Holy ****!

Your original point was in regards to people that CANNOT AFFORD (and thus DONT GET) treatment....the figure you posted is the cost of TREATMENT, meaning, the people GOT TREATMENT...what is your point? You are sounding like a troll and can't have a decent linear argument? Are you complaining that people can't afford treatment or that people can't afford to pay the bill AFTER they get treatment?
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:16 PM   #107
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Sadly, my maternal grandmother died last week aged 91. She had been receiving excellent palliative care for the past two weeks in a hospital near her home. She also had the option of having this care at her home, had the family so wished it. Cost to us - zero. Ability to say goodbye properly, without worrying about the cost = priceless.
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Sadly, my maternal grandmother died last week aged 91. She had been receiving excellent palliative care for the past two weeks in a hospital near her home. She also had the option of having this care at her home, had the family so wished it. Cost to us - zero. Ability to say goodbye properly, without worrying about the cost = priceless.
Very sorry for your loss.
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Americans live a little longer, still lag other rich countries



Americans may be living longer and even exercising a little more, but we really are not much healthier than we were 10 years ago and we are still far behind other rich countries when it comes to our health, researchers said Wednesday.

The biggest survey of U.S. health in 15 years breaks down death, disease and disability county by county – and makes some very unflattering comparisons to other countries. It’s a big, comprehensive dive into what kills us and what makes us sick.

It finds that how healthy you are depends on where you live. If you live in a rich area like San Francisco, Colorado or the suburbs of Washington D.C., you’re likely as healthy as the Swiss or Japanese. If you live in Appalachia or the rural South, you’re likely to be as unhealthy as people in Algeria or Bangladesh...

...“In the highest-performing counties, life expectancy rivaled countries with the highest life expectancy in the world, such as Switzerland and Japan,” they wrote.

“In the lowest-performing counties, life expectancy was lower than the life expectancy of countries receiving foreign aid such as Algeria and Bangladesh. The lowest life expectancies in the U.S. remained around 73 years for females and below 65 for males between 1985 and 2010."

"There are places with the best life expectancy in the world in the U.S., and there are places in Mississippi, for example, or West Virginia where life expectancies are in the mid-60s for men and low 70s for women. That's about the same as a number of poor developing countries," Murray says.

“The United States spends more than the rest of the world on health care and leads the world in the quality and quantity of its health research, but that doesn’t add up to better health outcomes,” Murray said in a statement.

One place the U.S. does better – treating some cancers.

“Five-year survival for breast cancer and colorectal cancer are higher in the U.S. than in many OECD countries,” they wrote.
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