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Old 07-02-2013, 12:04 AM   #41
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I thought we had moved past that. I haven't seen anyone condone the cops' actions yet.
So does everyone feel a cop should be able to shoot a dog after he unlawfully kicks in a front door and enters a house?

That happens at least once a month

I see a man getting kidnapped by men in uniforms and his dog protecting him
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:05 AM   #42
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Interesting how everyone ignores how this situation was created
I don't think anyone cares... There have been plenty of threads about cops attesting people for filming. That's not what this video was about.

But by all means, continue with your cop bashing...
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:06 AM   #43
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I don't think anyone cares... There have been plenty of threads about cops attesting people for filming. That's not what this video was about.

But by all means, continue with your cop bashing...
Bashing? How about accountability?
That's exactly what this thread is about
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So does everyone feel a cop should be able to shoot a dog after he unlawfully kicks in a front door and enters a house?

That happens at least once a month

I see a man getting kidnapped by men in uniforms and his dog protecting him
Unfortunately, the dog's going to lose 10 times out of 10 in those situations.
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Unfortunately, the dog's going to lose 10 times out of 10 in those situations.
Unless you put a badge on the dog... I shoot one of them and I go to jail for killing a cop
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Wish the dog would've gotten to a throat or two
^^doesn't sound like "accountability" to me^^
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Unless you put a badge on the dog... I shoot one of them and I go to jail for killing a cop
I guess you'd better hope that never happens, then. I'm not sure what else to say.
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Unless you put a badge on the dog... I shoot one of them and I go to jail for killing a cop
Thank you. Exactly this.

These ass-holes stirred everything up and ended murdering the poor good.
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Why do cops have guns out in this situation?

Seems very unwarranted.

Guy was recording them. I'm confused why a gun should be brandished when a few people can easily take this guy. Cops are wussy here. Use tasers, batons, etc.

Btw random question here if a cop killed your dog would you return the favor if you knew where he lived? Is that just a misdemeanor if this guy went vigilante on the cop's personal dog?
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I'm headed off to bed, but I've got a few thoughts on this subject that I'll try to remember for tomorrow.

Interesting discussion.
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I hate to say it, because it's clearly an unpopular viewpoint around here, but if I were in a situation where a dog started behaving aggressively towards me and didn't back off following a sharp yell, I would seriously consider shooting the dog. If it were behaving aggressively towards one of my kids, I probably wouldn't even bother with the yell.
While unpopular, I would shoot a dog in a heart beat, especially any breed known to be aggressive (...and I have no problem with dogs and have one of my own; a pit mix). Listen, it's really easy to say, "Oh, the dog wasn't in attack mode.....it was just investigating", but the honest truth is that we have to make split decisions on the fly. Sometimes decisions like this have to be made and no one wins in the end. It's unfortunate for the dog because the owner should have done a better job of securing the animal.

As for the question about why the officers had their firearms drawn, well....that's the job. Depending on the situation (..and what is known about the individual), I will exit and draw my weapon. It really just depends. Take the emotion out of your responses and try to be just a tad bit more objective.

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As a loving dog owner its just to hard to see this happen. I just huged my pup after I saw that video because its just so sad to watch. Justice needs to be served here. The police should have instructed the owner to close his windows so his dog wouldn't jump out. Its the instinct of dogs in general to protect their owners.
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While unpopular, I would shoot a dog in a heart beat, especially any breed known to be aggressive (...and I have no problem with dogs and have one of my own; a pit mix). Listen, it's really easy to say, "Oh, the dog wasn't in attack mode.....it was just investigating", but the honest truth is that we have to make split decisions on the fly. Sometimes decisions like this have to be made and no one wins in the end. It's unfortunate for the dog because the owner should have done a better job of securing the animal.

As for the question about why the officers had their firearms drawn, well....that's the job. Depending on the situation (..and what is known about the individual), I will exit and draw my weapon. It really just depends. Take the emotion out of your responses and try to be just wee bit objective.
What happened to tasers and batons ? Or is that just euro countries ?
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What happened to tasers and batons ? Or is that just euro countries ?
Really? Use a taser or baton on a dog???? It is just plain stupid to allow an animal capable of royally f*cking me up to close the distance. Again, it's all situational. Am I going to shoot a small dog or a dog likely to cause me very little damage? The likely answer is no. I'll shoot a Pit, Rott, Dobie, Akita, etc. without hesitation IF I feel like there is a chance that I'm about to be attacked. Sorry if that's an unpopular view, but it is mine alone.

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Does anyone remember the story from a few years ago involving some high level city or political figure who had a case of mistaken identity..basically swat broke in and shot BOTH black labs..which were running away. Think about it..BLACK LABS...some people in that position and level of control are just douchebags, waiting to use their guns and play big boy.
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Really? Use a taser or baton on a dog???? It is just plain stupid to allow an animal capable of royally f*cking me up to close the distance. Again, it's all situational. Am I going to shoot a small dog or a dog likely to cause me very little damage? The likely answer is no. I'll shoot a Pit, Rott, Dobie, Akita, etc. without hesitation IF I feel like there is a chance that I'm about to be attacked. Sorry if that's an unpopular view, but it is mine alone.
Chill out dude!!!

Look not every country shoots dogs . They call for animal control to get the dog.

USA is culturally different but it doesn't mean we can't change.

Your choice on killing those dogs. Obviously you're life isn't at risk but your pride sure is.
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Chill out dude!!!

Look not every country shoots dogs . They call for animal control to get the dog.

USA is culturally different but it doesn't mean we can't change.

Your choice on killing those dogs. Obviously you're life isn't at risk but your pride sure is.
I'm not upset.

Animal control might be a factor WHEN the dog is contained and an officer needs to gain entrance to a residence or a business. Animal control is NOT a suitable option with a free roaming animal in an arrest situation. I'm not going to argue about the premise that I presented. A dangerous dog CAN take a life and CAN seriously maul (..the latter is likely the more realistic outcome). I'm going home in one piece with all of my extremities intact. Thank you very much.

It wasn't that long ago that a local department had to deal with a series of dog maulings (..and loss of life did occur). These things happen all of the time.

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Hopefully the dog made it. I know some dogs can take a a lot. My buddies German Shepard got shot 3 times in the side, with a shot gun, and still lived a full life.


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