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Old 07-02-2013, 01:58 AM   #61
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Animal control might be a factor WHEN the dog is contained and an officer needs to gain entrance to a residence or a business. Animal control is NOT a suitable option with a free roaming animal in an arrest situation. I'm not going to argue about the premise that I presented. A dangerous dog CAN take a life and CAN seriously maul (..the latter is likely the more realistic outcome). I'm going home in one piece with all of my extremities intact. Thank you very much.

It wasn't that long ago that a local department had to deal with a series of dog maulings (..and loss of life did occur). These things happen all of the time.
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Sad situation.

I have a little 11 pound pappion chihuahua . If it barked at you and showed it teeth and growled - still justifiable deadly force?

I'm wondering where the line is drawn
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Old 07-02-2013, 02:03 AM   #62
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Appreciate the response.

Sad situation.

I have a little 11 pound pappion chihuahua . If it barked at you and showed it teeth and growled - still justifiable deadly force?

I'm wondering where the line is drawn
Of course not! I'd just punt the chihuahua. I keed, I keed! Seriously though, officers don't typically go around shooting animals, and in my line of work I don't deal with domestic issues, so I don't come across dogs very often at all. A municipal cop or deputy would deal with stuff like that far more often; probably daily/weekly. There is a stark difference between a 60-80 lb. Pit Bull or 100-150 lb. Rottweiler and a small terrier, chihuahua, etc. A Pit, Rott, Dobie, etc. will close the distance so fast that you won't have time to blink. You (..meaning an officer that encounters that) better be on your toes.

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I did a summer job doing GIS collection. I was mapping all the water meters in the city on GPS units via satellite. I was not prepared for what I was about to embark on. About day 2 I was trying to get a signal Simba style and I look to my left and a dog was full sprint running towards me. I booked it down the street while the owner was yelling he didn't bite.

Moral of the story. Unchained dogs are unpredictable, as are their owners. I was chased about 5 times in 3 months.
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I did a summer job doing GIS collection. I was mapping all the water meters in the city on GPS units via satellite. I was not prepared for what I was about to embark on. About day 2 I was trying to get a signal Simba style and I look to my left and a dog was full sprint running towards me. I booked it down the street while the owner was yelling he didn't bite.

Moral of the story. Unchained dogs are unpredictable, as are their owners. I was chased about 5 times in 3 months.
IF I only had a dollar for every time I heard an owner say, "He doesn't bite. He's not aggressive" only for the dog to demonstrate otherwise.
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Tough dog. I don't even know any humans that survived 3 shotgun rounds.
Their bodies are a lot different, its strange.

He was an awesome dog. A farmer shot him for attacking his cattle. he lived for several years after that.
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IF I only had a dollar for every time I heard an owner say, "He doesn't bite. He's not aggressive" only for the dog to demonstrate otherwise.
I was dead sprint yelling I didn't believe him

I finally just stopped and he stopped chasing me as well. Told the mailman about an hour later to watch out, and he said he's jumped through a window to chase him before.

I gained a new respect for dogs that weren't mine, and I don't take them lightly anymore. Dogs can be insanely protective in high-pressure situations involving their owner.
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I don't think it matters if I am sprinting or standing still, my dog still catches up to me in about 2 seconds.
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I was dead sprint yelling I didn't believe him

I finally just stopped and he stopped chasing me as well. Told the mailman about an hour later to watch out, and he said he's jumped through a window to chase him before.

I gained a new respect for dogs that weren't mine, and I don't take them lightly anymore. Dogs can be insanely protective in high-pressure situations involving their owner.
See, that owner needs to contain that dog. He puts the dog and passer-bys in a bad situation. That dog is going to get it (..or seriously give it) one day!
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I don't think it matters if I am sprinting or standing still, my dog still catches up to me in about 2 seconds.
Mine too. My dog is so fast that it's not even funny. He is the fastest dog in any dog park that I've ever taken him too. Sometimes it's hilarious to watch the procession of 10-15 dogs trying to catch him. If I could have him race one of the K9's I would, but those department dogs don't really play nice with anything/anybody but the handling officer.

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See, that owner needs to contain that dog. He puts the dog and passer-bys in a bad situation. That dog is going to get it (..or seriously give it) one day!
Exactly. The owners of the dogs should be held accountable, too. I had a lady open her front door as I was standing in the yard to let out her Pit Bull with one of those thin metal wire yard chains that was dark enough in color I didn't initially see it. Took off for a second until he ran out of slack and I realized he was chained. People don't care about other people, and I saw it multiple times with owners and their dogs. I have to side with any officer with a loose dog big enough to do damage.
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I suppose that the ultimate question here is: what level of aggressive behavior are we willing to accept from dogs that are in our communities? It seems like every time there's a dog shooting, there's always some dog apologist who says "the dog was just doing what dogs do! They are territorial and protect their masters!"

I think if we are going to allow dogs to be in our society we have the right to hold them to standards of behavior that allow the rest of society to travel in public without feeling threatened. I think the burden of behavior ultimately rests entirely with the owner of the dog--if the dog is aggressive or territorial, then the owner has the responsibility to either train that behavior out of the dog or keep the dog out of the public, with the understanding that failure to do so will lead to the dog either 1) getting shot or 2) hurting someone, leading to complete liability on the part of the owner.
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I suppose that the ultimate question here is: what level of aggressive behavior are we willing to accept from dogs that are in our communities? It seems like every time there's a dog shooting, there's always some dog apologist who says "the dog was just doing what dogs do! They are territorial and protect their masters!"

I think if we are going to allow dogs to be in our society we have the right to hold them to standards of behavior that allow the rest of society to travel in public without feeling threatened. I think the burden of behavior ultimately rests entirely with the owner of the dog--if the dog is aggressive or territorial, then the owner has the responsibility to either train that behavior out of the dog or keep the dog out of the public, with the understanding that failure to do so will lead to the dog either 1) getting shot or 2) hurting someone, leading to complete liability on the part of the owner.
I agree, however, I feel like there are some things you can't train out of a dog. If a dog is always aggressive, he should either be very well restrained or kept out of public (agree 100%). But any dog would react with aggression if their master was being threatened. We had a cocker spaniel when I was younger. Dog never barked, never even jumped up on people, even when play fighting with him. But my dad would pretend to beat on us, and immediately he would bark and get aggressive. I think the only fault in the situation is the owner not rolling the windows up further. But I'm sure the police had told him, go put the dog in the car, you're under arrest (or something of the sort). So jumping into the drivers seat, putting the key in and rolling the windows up was probably a bad idea.
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I agree, however, I feel like there are some things you can't train out of a dog. If a dog is always aggressive, he should either be very well restrained or kept out of public (agree 100%). But any dog would react with aggression if their master was being threatened. We had a cocker spaniel when I was younger. Dog never barked, never even jumped up on people, even when play fighting with him. But my dad would pretend to beat on us, and immediately he would bark and get aggressive. I think the only fault in the situation is the owner not rolling the windows up further. But I'm sure the police had told him, go put the dog in the car, you're under arrest (or something of the sort). So jumping into the drivers seat, putting the key in and rolling the windows up was probably a bad idea.
I hadn't thought about it before, but putting the dog into the car on a June afternoon (especially if the windows were rolled up) would probably have resulted in the dog dying from overheating.
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