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Old 07-05-2013, 07:21 PM   #1
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Thumbs Up Another DUI checkpoint video (4 July 2013).

ahh yeah boys, let the games begin!!

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Old 07-05-2013, 07:32 PM   #2
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pigs, hate when they act like a.holes, but this kid surely pissed this guy off.. lol

i dont understand these videos, looking for trouble and wanting to prove a point. Its like picking on a bully, when your a tiny scrawny mofo.
try this she.it in a third world country and youll be butt raped by 3 in the morning.

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Old 07-05-2013, 07:32 PM   #3
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Unbelievable! Sheeple slowly give their rights away for the perception of safety... Completely unlawful search and detention.
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Old 07-05-2013, 07:34 PM   #4
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had he just rolled down the window in the first place im 99% sure this is how the conversation would have went:

officer: how you doin tonight?
kid: alright officer, how are you?
officer: alright. have you had anything to drink tonight?
kid: no sir.
(officer quickly examines to see if the kid is showing signs of impairment)
officer: alright, you have a safe night

the kid made more hassle for himself than it was worth IMO. and yes, the cops were wrong, it doesn't make the kid right.
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Old 07-05-2013, 07:36 PM   #5
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LOL dude in a car is a prick. What's the point of getting in a tussle with an officer just for sh*ts and gigs? Pointless
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it's like the morons who open carry "to prove a point". cut the ****.
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Old 07-05-2013, 07:47 PM   #7
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If it were me I would've of course rolled the window all the way down, but the officer had no right to ignore the law like that. He went way out of bounds. It doesn't matter if you don't roll the window all the way down, an officer cannot and should not go beyond the law in that way. He can be as suspicious as he wants, but it has to be within the law.
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had he just rolled down the window in the first place im 99% sure this is how the conversation would have went:

officer: how you doin tonight?
kid: alright officer, how are you?
officer: alright. have you had anything to drink tonight?
kid: no sir.
(officer quickly examines to see if the kid is showing signs of impairment)
officer: alright, you have a safe night

the kid made more hassle for himself than it was worth IMO. and yes, the cops were wrong, it doesn't make the kid right.
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LOL dude in a car is a prick. What's the point of getting in a tussle with an officer just for sh*ts and gigs? Pointless


Maybe next we can have house inspections... Police can go door to door, detain you for an hour while they search for drugs. After all, its for the good of public safety. As long as you're not breaking the law you shouldnt have a problem with it.
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Maybe next we can have house inspections... Police can go door to door, detain you for an hour while they search for drugs. After all, its for the good of public safety. As long as you're not breaking the law you shouldnt have a problem with it.
A LEO coming into my house to search does not equate to a LEO looking, from the outside, into my car to see if I'm hammered.


Keep throwing that sheeple comment around, it makes me
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Maybe next we can have house inspections... Police can go door to door, detain you for an hour while they search for drugs. After all, its for the good of public safety. As long as you're not breaking the law you shouldnt have a problem with it.
Lol where do you live, so I can come give you 2 extra palms for an epic facepalm. The situations aren't even remotely the same
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Maybe next we can have house inspections... Police can go door to door, detain you for an hour while they search for drugs. After all, its for the good of public safety. As long as you're not breaking the law you shouldnt have a problem with it.
yeah, because that is exactly what we're saying.

choosing to roll the window down and talking to the cop like a normal human being is a little different than being forcibly detained in your own home for no reason.

the cops who did this were out of line and I do not agree with their choices, but the kid made a big deal out of nothing. if you cannot see that, you are probably the kid in this video.
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Great original post! I've always operated under the belief that the police control the situation, and the place to fight them is in court. Police must consider each situation like this as potentially life threatening. Put yourself in their position. Granted, a lot of them abuse this position of power.

When pulled over, I follow instructions. It was pretty slick to record this situation.

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Assuming you follow directions... Maybe the cop decides you look suspicious and detains you for awhile. Submits you to a battery of tests that can take up to an hour. Finds nothing and lets you go. Lets say this goes on every weekend in your town between your job and your house.

What are you going to take them to court for? When is enough enough? Where do you draw the line?

This just leads to sloppy police work and deterioration of our rights.
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Sure, the kid probably could have made life easier on himself, but that doesn't excuse the conduct of the officers involved.

On a side note, I personally know a K9 cop and he confirmed the dog scratching thing. I'm not saying that its specifically for the purpose of giving them the ability to 'search without consent', but they do have different commands they use to make the dog spend more time sniffing/scratching one area.
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A LEO coming into my house to search does not equate to a LEO looking, from the outside, into my car to see if I'm hammered.


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Where in the video does this officer even question the drivers sobriety? Im post certified as a DRE... And speaking from experience I can tell you that you dont need more than an inch to identify signs of intoxification which gives you PC to detain the person.

Its clear the officer was upset by his response and got emotional. That is no reason for him to violate the drivers rights. The proper response would have been to continue your line of questioning and look for signs to determine if the driver was intoxicated. If not, send him on his way...
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Where in the video does this officer even question the drivers sobriety? Im post certified as a DRE... And speaking from experience I can tell you that you dont need more than an inch to identify signs of intoxification which gives you PC to detain the person.

Its clear the officer was upset by his response and got emotional. That is no reason for him to violate the drivers rights. The proper response would have been to continue your line of questioning and look for signs to determine if the driver was intoxicated. If not, send him on his way...
no one is arguing that the cops weren't wrong in this situation... I am not sure that you understand that.
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Where in the video does this officer even question the drivers sobriety? Im post certified as a DRE... And speaking from experience I can tell you that you dont need more than an inch to identify signs of intoxification which gives you PC to detain the person.

Its clear the officer was upset by his response and got emotional. That is no reason for him to violate the drivers rights. The proper response would have been to continue your line of questioning and look for signs to determine if the driver was intoxicated. If not, send him on his way...
No one is doubting that the LEO's actions were incorrect, but as someone else said, that doesn't make what the driver did correct.
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No one is doubting that the LEO's actions were incorrect, but as someone else said, that doesn't make what the driver did correct.
What the driver did was entirely okay, and is perfectly legal to do; however, the officer should not have stepped above the law like that.

Rolling down the window only half-way is totally legal - but it's suspicious. The officer, if feeling suspicious, should have done what he could within the realm of the law to be more alert and try and verify his suspicions, but should never have crossed the line.

Was it a smart thing for the driver to do? No, because let's be honest, if you're rolling down the window a tiny bit, you're one of two people:

1. You're trying to prove a point
2. You've got illegal stuff

You're going to be less likely to be caught with illegal stuff if you just act like you don't have anything illegal. If an officer starts bullying you, then it's time to bang out the constitutional rights.

The officer more than likely would not have bullied him if he just rolled the window all the way down. Not legally necessary to do, but that's the reality that we live in. People are going to be corrupt. If you happen to be involved with a corrupt cop, the cop is going to be corrupt no matter what you do, so be nice, roll your window all the way down, and if he starts bullying you, flex your rights. Simple as that.
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What the driver did was entirely okay, and is perfectly legal to do; however, the officer should not have stepped above the law like that.

Rolling down the window only half-way is totally legal - but it's suspicious. The officer, if feeling suspicious, should have done what he could within the realm of the law to be more alert and try and verify his suspicions, but should never have crossed the line.

Was it a smart thing for the driver to do? No, because let's be honest, if you're rolling down the window a tiny bit, you're one of two people:

1. You're trying to prove a point
2. You've got illegal stuff

You're going to be less likely to be caught with illegal stuff if you just act like you don't have anything illegal. If an officer starts bullying you, then it's time to bang out the constitutional rights.

The officer more than likely would not have bullied him if he just rolled the window all the way down. Not legally necessary to do, but that's the reality that we live in. People are going to be corrupt. If you happen to be involved with a corrupt cop, the cop is going to be corrupt no matter what you do, so be nice, roll your window all the way down, and if he starts bullying you, flex your rights. Simple as that.
see? you get what we're saying.
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No one is doubting that the LEO's actions were incorrect, but as someone else said, that doesn't make what the driver did correct.
Absolutely it does. Checkpoints have gone back and forth in the courts. Instances like these set precident and case law.

Im all for taking drunk drivers off the road, but not at the expense of violating or traipsing on peoples civil rights.

Thats the difference between people like you and people like me... The ends justify the means to you.
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Thats the difference between people like you and people like me... The ends justify the means to you.
what the hell are you talking about? he said the cops were wrong to do what they did.. he is agreeing with you...what part of that do you not get?
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