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Old 07-06-2013, 08:35 PM   #81
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:55 PM   #82
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Just watched the video. Didn't bother reading through the thread. Talk about corrupt cops, when he made the statement that the kid was innocent and was aware of his rights and the BS with the dog. Talk about corrupt, those guys need to be reeled in. IMO they are abusing their power and should be let go.
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Old 07-06-2013, 11:28 PM   #84
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Just watched the video. Didn't bother reading through the thread. Talk about corrupt cops, when he made the statement that the kid was innocent and was aware of his rights and the BS with the dog. Talk about corrupt, those guys need to be reeled in. IMO they are abusing their power and should be let go.
Replace "let go" with "thrown in prison"
And we're good!
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Replace "let go" with "thrown in prison"
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:04 AM   #88
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PS: common knowledge to some of us...

But if asked to step out of your car, ALWAYS rollup the windows, lock/arm the car and put keys in your pocket. Verbally state repeatedly over and over you don't consent to any search or seizures of your person or vehicle
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:03 AM   #89
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What the driver did was entirely okay, and is perfectly legal to do; however, the officer should not have stepped above the law like that.

Rolling down the window only half-way is totally legal - but it's suspicious. The officer, if feeling suspicious, should have done what he could within the realm of the law to be more alert and try and verify his suspicions, but should never have crossed the line.

Was it a smart thing for the driver to do? No, because let's be honest, if you're rolling down the window a tiny bit, you're one of two people:

1. You're trying to prove a point
2. You've got illegal stuff

You're going to be less likely to be caught with illegal stuff if you just act like you don't have anything illegal. If an officer starts bullying you, then it's time to bang out the constitutional rights.

The officer more than likely would not have bullied him if he just rolled the window all the way down. Not legally necessary to do, but that's the reality that we live in. People are going to be corrupt. If you happen to be involved with a corrupt cop, the cop is going to be corrupt no matter what you do, so be nice, roll your window all the way down, and if he starts bullying you, flex your rights. Simple as that.
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:14 AM   #90
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But if asked to step out of your car, ALWAYS rollup the windows, lock/arm the car and put keys in your pocket. Verbally state repeatedly over and over you don't consent to any search or seizures of your person or vehicle
Its amazing to me that people don't get this. It amazes me that people don't realize (and thank) guys like the one in the video that exposes all this police corruption. Wife and her friends almost had a heart attack the last time I went through a DUI checkpoint in NJ, but at least there the cops were nothing more than annoyed and let me keep on going.

I personally know someone who got proper f***ed by being nice to the police and answering an innocent question. Anyone who talks to police is an idiot, plain and simple, and sooner or later, they are going to be in a world of hurt.

Oh, and yet ANOTHER reason to have a dashcam.
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What's impolite is being stopped on the road for no reason to me.
If the officer can hear you and see you, what's the issue?

You have to understand, the officer is using every millisecond to determine if law is being broken. You're literally being analyzed up and down for a reason to be arrested. It's NOT a polite encounter or a chance to make friends. It's a 100% CYA situation and you should be on your toes.

Is it considered "impolite" to refuse a search of your car? Answer questions, disclose your destination?

Be polite, be nice, but CYA


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Everything is for the children these days. We have the most spoiled and protected children on the planet it would seem.
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I do agree that the police were very much out of line, but the kid definitely egged 'em on.

In some ways, he reminds me of this guy I used to know who hated (perceived) tailgaiters. I rode with him a couple times, and when he believed someone was following too closely, he'd jam on his brakes, repeatedly along the same stretch of road. After a while, I asked why he kept doing it, and his justification was that eventually someone would hit him, and it would be their fault that both cars would be wrecked. At least his point would be proved. Oh yeah, and he worked as an EMT. I never rode with him behind the wheel again.

I wonder how many times the video poster had to tape before he finally got one worth posting. He seemed quite practiced and ready for what happened.
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Re: Another DUI checkpoint video (4 July 2013).

You people are crazy, clearly liberals! Last time I checked we still had soldiers in foreign countries to protect our freedoms. Although the window not being rolled all the way down is childish, it is legal. We have rights that are being infringed on each and every day from simple policeman like this to Mr. Obama. If we keep giving up rights for "the good of everybody" where does it stop. Driver was never in the wrong. Never raised his voice. Never talked back. What did he do wrong? Ironically this happened on independence day!

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It varies from state to state. Feel free to look it up in your own license edumacation book.
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From a former LEO perspective... So many uninformed people on here its amazing... ANYWAYYYYYY If I made that stop and interacted with that individual, I would have "maybe" slightly been annoyed with the window comment. However, kid was respectful at least and I would have asked the standard 2-3 more questions and sent him on his way. Being respectful was the most important thing to me when I dealt with individuals. Kudos to the driver for knowing the laws, I would have been impressed more so than anything. This is why I resigned too many power hungry brute force LEO's. Makes you feel out of place when you actually do your job correctly and have to deal with coworkers like the LEO in the vid.
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If the kid had comply to rolling down the window, would everything pan out the way it did? Or would everything that happened happen anyways regardless.
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If the kid had comply to rolling down the window, would everything pan out the way it did? Or would everything that happened happen anyways regardless.
Thats not the point, the point is the LEO went overboard and was unlawful in his actions. End of story.
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If the kid had comply to rolling down the window, would everything pan out the way it did? Or would everything that happened happen anyways regardless.
chances are if he had chose to roll the window down he wouldn't have been pulled out of the car that night.
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