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Old 08-02-2013, 11:16 AM   #1
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Old 08-02-2013, 06:53 PM   #2
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What do you want to do it with? What rifle are you going to use?

It's hit-or-miss. It can produce decent accuracy of ~1MOA in some guns, but a lot of rifles don't digest it well and thus, don't shoot it well either. It's primarily designed for semi-auto rifle use, as they tend to have looser chambers than most bolt rifles. The issue comes in with the steel case, in that Hornady doesn't make them in-house. IIRC, they contract the cases from the same place that makes them for Herter's/Tula. The quality control is "loose". When we switched to Hornady duty rifle ammo, the steel match stuff was rejected because of not only cost, but poor quality. It's meant to be their version of "inexpensive" practice ammo that is accurate, but it's neither.

With relation to the steel case, you don't get a lot of precision with steel because it doesn't seal the chamber during firing because it can't expand. You lose some pressure. You also cannot load it up with as much powder to higher velocities because the steel won't expand quickly. This is a problem because the they loaded with a 155gr BTHP, and regardless of the BC of the bullet, it's going to perform the same as a 147-150gr FMJ (M80 BALL variants) load. 155gr .308 loads can be accurate, but they suck at longer ranges unless you load them "hot". Hot loaded 155gr bullets are good for long range, but we're talking upwards of 3000fps. Hornady is running at 2600fps out of a 24" rifle barrel, so pretty lackluster.

If you're looking for practice .308 ammo for non-precision shooting, find some 147gr FMJ/BALL ammo. If you're looking for long range precision, get either a 168gr, 175gr or 178gr BTHP or AMAX load. It depends on the manufacturer. If you're going over 800yds, you need 175gr or heavier.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:43 PM   #3
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Old 08-03-2013, 12:22 AM   #4
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Meh... Hornady makes accurate ammo for the most part, but I personally feel that they have a lot of issues in other areas. Really soft brass, poor .223 and 5.56 urban "barrier"(because they're not true barrier blind loads) loads, light primers, lackluster performance with the Critical Defense FTX loads, lack of decent affordable training ammo, ZombieMax ammo, etc.
They would not be my go-to brand for anything other than duty/defense .308 loads, or general hunting loads. But, in regards to those specified loads, they do a good job.
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Old 08-03-2013, 02:05 AM   #5
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Old 08-03-2013, 09:36 AM   #6
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Meh... Hornady makes accurate ammo for the most part, but I personally feel that they have a lot of issues in other areas. Really soft brass, poor .223 and 5.56 urban "barrier"(because they're not true barrier blind loads) loads, light primers, lackluster performance with the Critical Defense FTX loads, lack of decent affordable training ammo, ZombieMax ammo, etc.
They would not be my go-to brand for anything other than duty/defense .308 loads, or general hunting loads. But, in regards to those specified loads, they do a good job.
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:40 PM   #7
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My ultimate go-to brand is Federal, but after Federal it would be Remington.
Hornady makes good .308 loads, and I really like what they have to offer for that cartridge. Everything else they make (for duty/defense use) I am unimpressed. Again, for hunting use they have excellent options.


Duty/Defense Pistol: Federal HST
Alternatives: Speer GDHP, Federal Tactical Bonded JHP, Winchester Ranger Bonded/PDX1 Bonded, Winchester Ranger T-Series, Remington Golden Saber Bonded

.223/5.56 Barrier Rifle: Federal Tactical 55gr or 62gr TBBC
.223/5.56 Barrier Rifle (SBR): Black Hills Ammunition 50gr TSX (proprietary bullet)
Alternatives: Speer 55gr GDSP, Remington Premier CLUB 62gr PSP, Federal Fusion 62gr, SSA 64gr Bonded PPT, Winchester Ranger Bonded 64gr JSP


.223/5.56 Urban: Federal TRU T223E 55gr BTHP
Alternatives: Federal TRU T223F 55gr Nosler Ballistic Tip, Winchester Ranger PowerPoint 64gr PPT


.223/5.56 Match/BTHP: Anything with 77gr SMK (Federal, Black Hills, ASYM, SSA, etc)
Alternative: Hornady TAP 75gr BTHP


6.8SPC (SBR): Federal XM68GD 90gr
6.8SPC (Non-SBR): Remington Premier CLUB 115gr PSP
Alternatives: SSA 100gr Nosler AccuBond Tactical


.308 Precision/GP: Any Match Load that works in your rifle

.308 CQB/entry: Remington Premier CLUB 150gr Bonded PSP
Alternatives: Hornady 168gr TAP Precision AMAX, 155gr TAP Precisoin AMAX, Federal TRU 165gr BTHP, Speer 150gr GDSP

.308 Barrier: Federal Tactical 168gr Bonded Tip
Alternatives: Remington Premier 165gr Scirocco Bonded, Hornady 165gr GMX TAP Barrier, Speer 168gr GDSP, SSA 168gr TTSX, SSA 165gr Nosler AccuBond
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Old 08-03-2013, 08:41 PM   #8
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:23 AM   #10
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Well we are talking about a .308 round. I'll shoot steel in my SP2022 because a new barrel would be decently cheap. When it comes to shooting steel in my SCAR 17, I'll pass.


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Why is that? Not shooting steel is one of the biggest myths out there.
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For me and a lot of other bacon-eating hardchargers I work or train with, not using steel is best described as "risk management". The steel ammo on the market had gotten better over the years, but steel continues to be the most inconsistent ammo on the market for accuracy and velocity. This is especially the case in the precision rifle world where consistency is paramount.

It's like banging a chick you met at church in the bathroom of the church and not wearing a condom- probably gonna be okay, but some prefer to not take the risk.
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Old 08-14-2013, 08:53 PM   #13
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Only Hornady ammo I've shot is their 12g SST slugs through my A-Bolt. Shoots no different than the Winchester XP3 shells I had been buying at half the price.
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Old 08-18-2013, 11:25 PM   #14
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Why is that? Not shooting steel is one of the biggest myths out there.
Steel shaves bits off your barrel. Granted it takes thousands of rounds to make a big difference. Plus it's preference. I wouldn't wear bright Red Sox with my dress shoes, but you might.


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