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Are you a gun fanatic as well? If so, you'll want to talk to other owners about what you own in this forum.

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Old 08-04-2013, 02:46 PM   #21
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Deterrence. Plus wife doesn't like having handguns in the home. We're in a dense neighborhood so the shorter range of a shotgun is safer for the neighbors than sending a round hundreds of feet or more.


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Use proper defense ammunition and you won't have that problem. Also, even your heaviest JHP handgun loads are going to fall short penetrating interior wall, insulation, exterior wall, siding, and then going through the same in your neighbors house


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Old 08-04-2013, 03:13 PM   #22
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Deterrence. Plus wife doesn't like having handguns in the home. We're in a dense neighborhood so the shorter range of a shotgun is safer for the neighbors than sending a round hundreds of feet or more.


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you might be surprised at the penetration of a shotgun in a HD scenario.
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Old 08-04-2013, 04:10 PM   #23
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Use proper defense ammunition and you won't have that problem. Also, even your heaviest JHP handgun loads are going to fall short penetrating interior wall, insulation, exterior wall, siding, and then going through the same in your neighbors house


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Deterrence. Plus wife doesn't like having handguns in the home. We're in a dense neighborhood so the shorter range of a shotgun is safer for the neighbors than sending a round hundreds of feet or more.


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Disagree with both. Typical myth

Pretty much any round is going to penetrate home interior buildling structures and shotgun round are hardly "shorter range"
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Old 08-04-2013, 04:17 PM   #24
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Why not a chaingun. You hear the guy breaking in and you spin the gun. He breaks in and gets blasted with however many bullets you feel like carrying
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This post has some good relative info
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Basic story: meth head moved in next door and fixated on myself and my wife.
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Old 08-05-2013, 11:54 PM   #27
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Yeah... Dude should be going to jail soon for an assault but keeps getting his court date continued. Until then I'm stuck in crazy town.


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Shot loses energy very fast,, Federal Copper 6 3 inch mags,,
under 25 yards and you get a hole the size of a baseball....
100 yards and its a bad experience at the ER getting the pellets removed..

Nobody should buy a gun for defense without taking a full course on home defense.
Even if your a lifelong gun handler it gives you the legal tools to make the right choices.
Send your wife to a shooting school if she hasn't been a gun handler, don't try and
teach her yourself, bad bad legal mojo....

Always have a knife that can receive some fingerprints as needed...
Something with a nice shiny handle. From a flea market.

If your not 100% ready to KILL don't use a gun for defense it can get you killed.

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The issue with shotguns is that they're heavily affected by numerous factors including the barrel choke. You use 7.5 shot trap loads out of a cylinder choke, and your grouping opens up exponentially compared to say, BBB out of a full choke (steel safe one).
Then you have shot size. The larger the shot, the better. The smaller, the worse.
Then you have steel vs lead vs non-toxic alloy. Lead is the most dense and has the heaviest mass, so it's the best. Straight steel is the worst to use. The heavy non-toxics are good alternatives.
Then there's cartridge design. 2 3/4 vs 3". Low brass vs High brass, charge weight, wadding, manufacturer, barrel length for muzzle velocity, etc etc etc.

Interesting dynamics to say the least.
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I don't even know my neighbor's full name so I can run him through open records.

He's not even on the lease. Two women are. Only one woman lives there. Landlord was originally concerned, told us he'd have to investigate and get him added to the lease if he's living there. Apparently their first month's rent check cleared, as he no longer gives a shit.
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