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Old 08-05-2013, 05:49 AM   #1
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Upgrde from the Nikon D90 to FF?

Hi guys,

Have been shooting with my D90 for a while now, had the D60 before it.

Current lenses are the 35mm 1.8 and 17-55 2.8

I have been toying with the idea of going full frame for a while now and am trying to justify it to myself.

The 17-55mm can be sold for almost the same as I bought it for and would probably be replaced with a 24-70?

Will need a higher zoom lens ans maybe looking at the first gen 70-200 VR, not sure how much better the second version is?

The question is which body would suite me best. One thing that has annoyed me a little with the D90 is the noise I get with only slightly higher ISO values. Not sure if this is normal but I want something that is good in low light situations. I donīt always have a tripod with me when I travel so...

Iīve noticed that D700 is getting afforable here second hand, and I know its good. How does it compare to the D600?

All advice is appreciated!
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:46 PM   #2
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Well, the D700 is from 2008 and the D600 is from 2013. 5 years in technology is huge.

Sell the 35 1.8 because it wont work FF. If you like the focal length, a 50 on FF is very similar to a 35 on DX, so you could get a 50 1. 8 AF for cheap or an AF-S if you want to get fancy.

yeah, the 24-70 2.8 is an awesome lens. If I ever go FF, I will have one.

I have the second gen 70-200 and it is also an awesome lens. If you need a 70-200 it's the one to have.
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Old 08-05-2013, 06:25 PM   #3
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My primary set up is a d600 and the nikkor 24-70. Definitely can't go wrong!
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:21 AM   #4
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I was under the impression that plenty of people used their 35mm with full frame?
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Old 08-06-2013, 04:06 PM   #5
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Well, the D700 is from 2008 and the D600 is from 2013. 5 years in technology is huge.

Sell the 35 1.8 because it wont work FF. If you like the focal length, a 50 on FF is very similar to a 35 on DX, so you could get a 50 1. 8 AF for cheap or an AF-S if you want to get fancy.

yeah, the 24-70 2.8 is an awesome lens. If I ever go FF, I will have one.

I have the second gen 70-200 and it is also an awesome lens. If you need a 70-200 it's the one to have.
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I was under the impression that plenty of people used their 35mm with full frame?
Go for a used d700. Ive had mine for 4 years and it's still rock solid. And about the 35mm dx lens not working on FF is false actually. It works awesome and is a fantastic lens for close up portraits. But if you stop down the lens past like 2.8 it starts to vignette badly but that lens was made to be shot wide open anyway.

The d700 + 24-70 is a beast combo. So good. That lens is one of the best lenses around.

The d600 has had issues from what Ive read. Something about oil on the sensor. My good buddy had one and it was a headache so he got rid of it.

IMHO go with a good used d700 and get a 24-70 when you sell your zoom..keep your 35 1.8 because it's only worth $100 anyway and it works fine on FF and then pick up a used nikon 50mm f1.4d. I have that lens 98% of the time on my camera. Very sharp and fast focusing.

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Old 08-06-2013, 04:13 PM   #6
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Sell the 35 1.8 because it wont work FF.
Wrong. It works perfectly on full frame. I had one on a D700 95+% of the time. Tested it with the D600 recently, and was also absolutely perfect. There is a tiny(!) bit of vignetting in the corners, which can be easily removed in post if you don't like the effect.
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All shot with a 35 1.8 + d700


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Old 08-06-2013, 07:33 PM   #8
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@E46stallion Why didn't your buddy just ship it back to Nikon and have them clean it? however I'm waiting to see what Nikon will do. I recall the D40 was replaced by the D40x within a year. So possibly there will be a replacement soon for the D600.


@rover220 I'm going to be moving to the D600 from my D90. For me I have to justify the move too. The only thing that I would gain in the D700 is full frame sensor and faster shutter. My main reasons for upgrading is that I want a full frame DSLR (like my old film SLR) and higher ISO to shoot in low light.

I saw this review and its nice food for thought
http://photographylife.com/nikon-d600-vs-d700

http://www.bythom.com/nikond600review.htm
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Old 08-13-2013, 02:54 AM   #9
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OK well I bought a D600!

Found one on the equivalent of Craigslist, brand new in box, an extra year of guarantee, only 2 months old.
Very happy with my new camera, now I just have to find time to play with it.

And find a new lens to replace my 17-55 I used for my D90. Think I will get the kit 24-85mm, I hear itīs pretty good. Canīt afford the 24-70 at the moment and wouldnīt mind having something a little lighter.
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^^ Before you get rid of the 17-55, try it in the 1.2x crop mode- you may find the range quite useful, and that lens is a constant f/2.8, instead of the snail slow f/3.5-4.5 of the 24-85VR.
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Old 08-13-2013, 03:38 PM   #11
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OP, take a look at this. 99% of the optical quality of the Nikkor 24-70, at half the price, plus it has VC/IS/VR.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tamron-SP-24...item460f02a97d
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Old 08-14-2013, 05:24 AM   #12
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^^ Before you get rid of the 17-55, try it in the 1.2x crop mode- you may find the range quite useful, and that lens is a constant f/2.8, instead of the snail slow f/3.5-4.5 of the 24-85VR.
From what Iīve read online the 17-55 isnīt really good on FF cameras. It works but quality will be lacking in parts of the pictures. Besides I could use the money to pay for the camera purchase. From what Iīve read the 25-85 is highly praised, even though it doesnīt go as low as 2.8.

Wouldnīt mind a lighter camera either for walking around on a daily basis. I might get better glass in the future when I can afford it.

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From what Iīve read online the 17-55 isnīt really good on FF cameras. It works but quality will be lacking in parts of the pictures. Besides I could use the money to pay for the camera purchase. From what Iīve read the 25-85 is highly praised, even though it doesnīt go as low as 2.8.

Wouldnīt mind a lighter camera either for walking around on a daily basis. I might get better glass in the future when I can afford it.
If you want something light and compact, keep that 35mm DX lens, and use that. Incredible image quality, and the combo is very compact.
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OK well I bought a D600!

Found one on the equivalent of Craigslist, brand new in box, an extra year of guarantee, only 2 months old.
Very happy with my new camera, now I just have to find time to play with it.

And find a new lens to replace my 17-55 I used for my D90. Think I will get the kit 24-85mm, I hear itīs pretty good. Canīt afford the 24-70 at the moment and wouldnīt mind having something a little lighter.


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Old 08-16-2013, 09:18 AM   #15
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^Thanks!

Look forward to playing with it.

Will be on a nature photography course this weekend. My old neighbor is a photographer and gives courses, and has offered to lend me some lenses for the weekend, including a tilt-shift lens. Hoping to get some good pics out of it.
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Old 08-18-2013, 04:19 PM   #16
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I went from d90 -> d600 and I have no regrets. The d700 is a very capable camera but 12mp vs 24mp. You'll never notice the difference on your computer but if you like to make large wall prints like me, you'll definitely notice a difference.

Also, the oil issue is only visible on small apertures (f/22) and I never shoot at that. If you are a bokeh whore like me, you'll never notice any issue. Worst case, nikon will clean the sensor under warranty.

Glad to see you went d600. It's a great camera.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:52 AM   #17
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Well I went to F22, and beyond this weekend haha.

Went on a nature photography course and got to try some really cool lenses, including:
16-24, 70-200 VR2, a 24mm tilt-shift lens (damn that thing is super sharp), 20-400 as well as a 600mm, all Nikkor. The 200-400 and 600mm are crazy heavy, am sitting at work and am actually sore in my whole back. Standing with those things on and taking pictures of birds is hard work, even when you rest the lens on something.

Will post some pics up once I edit them, have only edited these two so far, let me know what you think if you want!

Taken with the 70-200


Taken with the 24mm
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Old 08-19-2013, 08:08 PM   #18
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