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Old 09-18-2018, 07:32 AM   #1001
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Old 09-18-2018, 08:37 AM   #1002
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This is the limit. Now California also has an illegal alien serving as the vice chair on a govt body





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Who? Jerry Brown?

Aliens can come from other planets too, not just other countries.
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Old 09-22-2018, 06:06 AM   #1003
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Yale/MIT study finds twice as many illegals as previously thought. Just like Ann Coulter said.

https://thehill.com/latino/407848-ya...migrants-in-us
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Old 09-22-2018, 11:56 AM   #1004
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No, it’s been 11 million since 1990, that makes more sense lol.
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Old 09-22-2018, 05:49 PM   #1005
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Old 09-22-2018, 11:19 PM   #1006
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Yale/MIT study finds twice as many illegals as previously thought. Just like Ann Coulter said.

https://thehill.com/latino/407848-ya...migrants-in-us


and none of them go vote. Maybe one or two.


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Old 09-22-2018, 11:53 PM   #1007
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The article also points out that if the higher numbers are true, that suggests that the crime rates for illegal immigrants are actually half of what is commonly believed.
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Old 09-23-2018, 10:03 AM   #1008
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They sure to like driving drunk

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/22...er-driver.html
Man living illegally in US gets 16 years for crash that killed Colts linebacker Edwin Jackson and Uber driver

Illegal from Guatemala, 3x deportee
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Old 09-23-2018, 06:13 PM   #1009
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Old 09-23-2018, 11:26 PM   #1010
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They sure to like driving drunk

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/22...er-driver.html
Man living illegally in US gets 16 years for crash that killed Colts linebacker Edwin Jackson and Uber driver

Illegal from Guatemala, 3x deportee
You mean 3 time asylum seeker.

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You mean 3 time asylum seeker.

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Old 09-24-2018, 12:17 PM   #1012
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New Trump proposal aims to deny green cards to immigrants who would likely apply for food stamps of other low-income programs:

https://www.vox.com/2018/9/24/178923...medicaid-trump

No Poors Allowed(TM).
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Old 09-24-2018, 01:03 PM   #1013
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New Trump proposal aims to deny green cards to immigrants who would likely apply for food stamps of other low-income programs:

https://www.vox.com/2018/9/24/178923...medicaid-trump

No Poors Allowed(TM).
Idiots, this is already the case, it's just barely ever enforced.

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A. For purposes of determining inadmissibility, "public charge" means an individual who is likely to become primarily dependent on the government for subsistence, as demonstrated by either the receipt of public cash assistance for income maintenance or institutionalization for long-term care at government expense.

A number of factors must be considered when making a determination that a person is likely to become a public charge.

Under Section 212(a)(4) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), an individual seeking admission to the United States or seeking to adjust status to that of an individual lawfully admitted for permanent residence (green card) is inadmissible if the individual, "at the time of application for admission or adjustment of status, is likely at any time to become a public charge." Public charge does not apply in naturalization proceedings. If an individual is inadmissible, admission to the United States or adjustment of status is not granted.
https://www.uscis.gov/greencard/public-charge
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Old 09-24-2018, 01:06 PM   #1014
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About time they enforced the (long time existing) law
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Old 09-24-2018, 01:10 PM   #1015
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Idiots, this is already the case, it's just barely ever enforced.



https://www.uscis.gov/greencard/public-charge
Apparently what is changing is the criteria used to determine public charge, and then actually enforcing it. I just saw an article describing it as "nothing but pure cruelty."
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Apparently what is changing is the criteria used to determine public charge, and then actually enforcing it. I just saw an article describing it as "nothing but pure cruelty."
If you read the drop down sections of the link I posted....

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A. Inadmissibility based on the public charge ground is determined by the totality of the circumstances. This means that the adjudicating officer must weigh both the positive and negative factors when determining the likelihood that someone might become a public charge. At a minimum, a U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) officer must consider the following factors when making a public charge determination:

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The officer may also consider any affidavit of support filed on behalf of the individual under Section 213A of the INA. Presence or absence of a single factor cannot be the sole criteria for determining inadmissibility as a public charge, (unless that factor is the absence or insufficiency of an affidavit of support when required by the laws and regulations governing a specific immigration benefit, such as certain family-based adjustment of status applications).

In assessing the totality of the circumstances, including the statutory factors above, an officer may consider the individual’s receipt of certain publicly funded benefits. Not all publicly funded benefits are relevant to deciding whether someone is likely to become a public charge. When determining whether someone is likely to become a public charge, USCIS will consider whether the individual is likely to become primarily dependent on the government for subsistence as demonstrated by either the receipt of public cash assistance for income maintenance or institutionalization for long-term care at government expense. Short-term institutionalization for rehabilitation is not subject to public charge consideration under existing field guidance. Non-cash benefits that USCIS does not consider are discussed in greater detail below.
There is a lot of officer discretion....which is BAD, and often racially/culturally motivated. White Europeans have much greater difficulty obtaining status than poor third world applicants. The process is corrupt at it's core, and we need it to be black and white (no pun intended) and remove the "discretion" from the officers.
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Old 09-24-2018, 01:15 PM   #1017
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If you read the drop down sections of the link I posted....



There is a lot of officer discretion....which is BAD, and often racially/culturally motivated. White Europeans have much greater difficulty obtaining status than poor third world applicants. The process is corrupt at it's core, and we need it to be black and white (no pun intended) and remove the "discretion" from the officers.
Makes sense to me. I would like to see a lot less "officer discretion" in a lot of arenas.
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Old 09-24-2018, 06:51 PM   #1018
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New Trump proposal aims to deny green cards to immigrants who would likely apply for food stamps of other low-income programs:

https://www.vox.com/2018/9/24/178923...medicaid-trump

No Poors Allowed(TM).
I imagine a LOT of us would be back in our family's country of origin had some "no poor's allowed" criteria prevailed 100+ years ago.

Not that there wasn't pushback, back in the day, against those hordes of Catholics, Irish, Italians, Slavs, Chinese, etc.

The white nationalist arguments of today are drearily similar to those of a century ago. Donald Trump's own mother, Màiri Anna NicLẹid, would have been sent back to her Scottish backwaters, being essentially a chain/economic migrant, escaping what was then a schidt-hole country (economically). She arrived with some $700 burning a hole in her pocket. Basically, she "started life in America as a dirt-poor servant escaping the even worse poverty of her native land."
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I imagine a LOT of us would be back in our family's country of origin had some "no poor's allowed" criteria prevailed 100+ years ago.

Not that there wasn't pushback, back in the day, against those hordes of Catholics, Irish, Italians, Slavs, Chinese, etc.

The white nationalist arguments of today are drearily similar to those of a century ago. Donald Trump's own mother, Màiri Anna NicLẹid, would have been sent back to her Scottish backwaters, being essentially a chain/economic migrant, escaping what was then a schidt-hole country (economically). She arrived with some $700 burning a hole in her pocket. Basically, she "started life in America as a dirt-poor servant escaping the even worse poverty of her native land."
This would be a great argument if back in the day we had the robust welfare state apparatus we have now. But since we didn't, it's not.
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This would be a great argument if back in the day we had the robust welfare state apparatus we have now. But since we didn't, it's not.


Bingo.
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