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Old 03-05-2019, 07:26 AM   #1
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Salon: Are pedophiles too sick for punishment?

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...unishment.html
Is Pedophilia a Crime or an Illness?
We’ve never quite known whether child molesters should be treated as sick people or punished as criminals.

So they're still knocking on this door huh? (couldn't find my original thread)

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it were mental illness just like I wouldn't be surprised if a dude thought he was a girl is mental illness.
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Old 03-05-2019, 08:12 AM   #2
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They are mentally ill for feeling those thoughts, they are criminals for acting on them. Not sure what the issue is?
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Old 04-20-2019, 12:45 PM   #3
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They are mentally ill for feeling those thoughts, they are criminals for acting on them. Not sure what the issue is?
Sounds like an accurate assessment to me.
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Old 04-20-2019, 06:57 PM   #4
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It's an illness that is also a crime because it hurts other people. Should it be treated as a crime (prison) or an illness (mental hospital)? I don't know enough about the human psychology to answer that question and neither do you OP.
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Good thing these things never gain traction incrementally

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...for-males.html
'Paedophilia is natural and normal for males'
How some university academics make the case for paedophiles at summer conferences
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Good thing these things never gain traction incrementally

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...for-males.html
'Paedophilia is natural and normal for males'
How some university academics make the case for paedophiles at summer conferences


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It’s fair to say the Tromovitch view does not represent majority academic opinion. It’s likely, too, that some of the academic protests against the “stigmatisation” of paedophiles are as much a backlash against the harshness of sex offender laws as anything else. Finally, of course, academic inquiry is supposed to question conventional wisdom and to deal rigorously with the evidence, whether or not the conclusions it leads you to are popular.
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Of course it's not mainstream, these things take time. That's the point I have been making,
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Of course it’s not mainstream, these things take time. That’s the point I have been making,
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If I read the article correctly, it's become less mainstream than it was in the 70s and 80s.
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If I read the article correctly, it's become less mainstream than it was in the 70s and 80s.
I think we'll see a concerted push towards some sort of public perception push towards classifying it as a sexual preference without decriminalization. We will then be forced to view them as victims of nature and they'll be some sort of protected class.
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I think we'll see a concerted push towards some sort of public perception push towards classifying it as a sexual preference without decriminalization. We will then be forced to view them as victims of nature and they'll be some sort of protected class.
And they will all get jobs at Clinton's pizza place .

You are bordering on the edge if sanity with some of this stuff you post, does your fear of liberals keep you up at night?
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I think we'll see a concerted push towards some sort of public perception push towards classifying it as a sexual preference without decriminalization. We will then be forced to view them as victims of nature and they'll be some sort of protected class.
If psychologists can do a better job with them than prison guards, I'm willing to listen to options.

I don't see our society ever elevating an adult pedophile's desire for sex above a child's inability to consent to sex. Since protecting the victims/potential victims will always be a higher priority, if we can do a better job increasing a pedophiles ability to function in society without harming others, we should consider what it takes. If it consumes too many resources, or is too risky, or requires too many concessions on the part of everyone else, then maybe we'd still say "fckit, you're going to prison, good luck in there".
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If I read the article correctly, it's become less mainstream than it was in the 70s and 80s.
AoG had a whole thread about this, and I'm with him in so much as that I can't seem to locate it anywhere (VaderDave?).

Why he decided to start a new thread is beyond me. He was shown to be overreacting at every single instance

Since the 70's (and probably before) there have been fringe sources trying to justify pedo's, but its just that. A fringe push that gets near-unanimous condemnation.

We have not seen any sort of incremental push towards acceptance of pedo's. SOme of them are probably crazy or disturbed (Michael Jackson?), others are just sickos, but that doesn't mean we are accepting as a society of their actions.
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AoG had a whole thread about this, and I'm with him in so much as that I can't seem to locate it anywhere (VaderDave?).

Why he decided to start a new thread is beyond me. He was shown to be overreacting at every single instance

Since the 70's (and probably before) there have been fringe sources trying to justify pedo's, but its just that. A fringe push that gets near-unanimous condemnation.

We have not seen any sort of incremental push towards acceptance of pedo's. SOme of them are probably crazy or disturbed (Michael Jackson?), others are just sickos, but that doesn't mean we are accepting as a society of their actions.
Thus thread has solidified him as the queen of meltdowns around here, how many threads has he started or does he keep afloat with his outrage over things?

This one
The school insanity thread
Media collusion/fake news thread
Voter fraud thread
I know there are others
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Thus thread has solidified him as the queen of meltdowns around here, how many threads has he started or does he keep afloat with his outrage over things?

This one
The school insanity thread
Media collusion/fake news thread
Voter fraud thread
I know there are others
How else would he get the attention he craves so much?
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Thus thread has solidified him as the queen of meltdowns around here, how many threads has he started or does he keep afloat with his outrage over things?

This one
The school insanity thread
Media collusion/fake news thread
Voter fraud thread
I know there are others
This is exactly what makes him a well suited to be an effective ambulance-chaser attorney. Exaggerates with such conviction, even though everyone knows the BS is eyeball deep.
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Thus thread has solidified him as the queen of meltdowns around here, how many threads has he started or does he keep afloat with his outrage over things?

This one
The school insanity thread
Media collusion/fake news thread
Voter fraud thread
I know there are others
Why would you not keep topics together, what are you a sociopath??
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