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Old 11-24-2011, 03:11 PM   #21
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245 8 times on bench (2x 45's and 2x 10's)
315 4 times on squats (3x 45's)
I know, weak squat, don't give me **** hahaha

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That's not a weak squat if your form is on point
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Old 11-24-2011, 03:46 PM   #23
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u can do 225 80 times?
haha. meant 8-10


btw my squat is a front squat. i dont back squat
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Old 11-24-2011, 03:47 PM   #24
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That's not a weak squat if your form is on point
exactly, a lot of people cant get the thigh horizontal. thats what i aim for, anything less, i dont really count it.
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ass to grass is where you should be.
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thats bad for your knees, i dont do deep squats with heavy weights.
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thats bad for your knees, i dont do deep squats with heavy weights.
Oldest old wives tale there is. Squatting as deep as possible puts less stress on your knees than any other position.
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thats bad for your knees, i dont do deep squats with heavy weights.
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Bench I'm probably good for 18 - 20 at 185 and ass to grass back squat at 225 I'm probably good for 30 or so.
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youre stopping a natural motion in the socket. you stress your knees out by trying to stop before they are meant to (with a heavy weight).
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Old 11-24-2011, 04:09 PM   #33
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Bench I'm probably good for 18 - 20 at 185 and ass to grass back squat at 225 I'm probably good for 30 or so.
i feel like we have very similar training styles/goals. too bad you arent local, would be fun to workout with someone similar!
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youre stopping a natural motion in the socket. you stress your knees out by trying to stop before they are meant to (with a heavy weight)
but arent the muscles beyond the natural point of recovering without strain?
and strain the tendons too.
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I'm on my phone so I can't really post links but if you google starting strength wiki and read about squatting they talk about the different forces on the patella are different points in the squat. I believe there are also some charts about relative incidence of injuries for different sports and Olympic weightlifting (which is all super deep squats) has one of the lowest incidences of injury than anything out there. All this assumes good form, but if your form is bad you could hurt yourself with anything. Check out that site and let me know what you think.
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i feel like we have very similar training styles/goals. too bad you arent local, would be fun to workout with someone similar!
Yeah for sure. I think we are about 2000 miles apart though. I'm out of commission for a few weeks anyways though with a broken toe. So annoying.
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every chart ive ever seen says go horizontal.
im not saying dont do deep squats, im saying dont go too heavy with it.
im not a fan of wiki as far as facts go tho, so come correct on that
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I'm 6'3, about 198lb now and I don't do heavy weights. mainly because I work out myself and can't max out at whatever I like. I'm always afraid of either hurting myself or loosing it while maxing out with no one around

for squats in proper form I do 185 (one 45lb and one 25lb plate each side) about 8-10 reps

and for chest I always use dumbell press- about 60lb each. I know its weak, but I've been doing supersets with flys and a couple other exercises

so IMO heavy weights isn't necessary to get big or gain weight, focus more on your diet and you'll be fine. don't be stuck with light weights either, just progress slowly. my goal is 220 by the summer now once I realized its not possible by end of this year lol
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that's good for squats in general, but not for Olympic squats. My friends and I normally put a tennis ball on the ground for our squats
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but arent the muscles beyond the natural point of recovering without strain?
and strain the tendons too.
Naw. Muscles and tendons are meant to be stretched and worked. Of course you have to work up to everything slowly to avoid injury, but there is a pretty wide margin of safety for how much a tendon can take before snapping. Granted tendons take a lot longer to build up vs muscle but it's almost impossible to snap a tendon when moving in a straight line like in a squat or deadlift.
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