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Old 01-15-2020, 04:55 PM   #1
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Which INPA K+ CAN Cable with Switch DCAN can you verify has worked?

Want to get INPA. Need a specific cable to buy.
Want one that people can verify has worked
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Old 01-15-2020, 06:12 PM   #2
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Which INPA K+ CAN Cable with Switch DCAN can you verify has worked?

The one Balidawg recommends!


AntiBreak Ediabas D can INPA K+... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0817D2L9J...p_mob_ap_share

It even has a switch to connect pins 7 & 8..


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Old 01-15-2020, 06:34 PM   #3
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If you're going to go work on any E90 or newer generation cars, get the Bimmergeeks' cable (despite what BaliDawg says). Every other cable out there has flawed firmware that causes some module communications to fail when being used in D-CAN mode.
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Old 01-15-2020, 09:23 PM   #4
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i do like my bimmergeeks expert cable, but it is probably overkill. and annoying that i have to use the double k-line adapter. so you're better off getting the cheap one with the switch does the job of the adapter (jumping two pins together). bimmergeeks pro cable looks marginally better than the ones on ebay.
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I don't think they sell the "expert" one anymore anyway.
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i guess i went with that expert cable because i was worried about the switch breaking, and i am biased against transparent cable. probably nothing wrong with the pro-cable.

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If you're going to go work on any E90 or newer generation cars, get the Bimmergeeks' cable (despite what BaliDawg says). Every other cable out there has flawed firmware that causes some module communications to fail when being used in D-CAN mode.
I want INPA cable to also work with E83 (n52, 2010)
Don't get Bali cable then ?


Switched Left is for older chassis such as E46, E39, E53, E38 etc...
Switched Right is for newer chassis such as E90, E60, E70 etc...
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I think you'll need D-CAN if you want to flash the DME on the E83, in which case I'd get the bimmergeeks cable. Otherwise it uses K-line for everything else.
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If you're going to go work on any E90 or newer generation cars, get the Bimmergeeks' cable (despite what BaliDawg says). Every other cable out there has flawed firmware that causes some module communications to fail when being used in D-CAN mode.
Only reason I stopped recommending the BimmerGeeks cable was after seeing several out-of-box failed cables. I think it was around 5-6 cables over a 3-4 month period.
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I have several different K+DCAN cables, including the one linked in post #2 above. They all work with the E39 and E46 for everything including flashing with WinKFP. They also work for reading/clearing codes, seeing live data, and coding various modules on those two older cars as well as our 2011 E92 and 2013 E84, but I haven't tried them for flashing on the newer BMWs for the reasons TerraPhantm mentioned.

Point being, if you're not flashing the newer BMWs, the typical K+DCAN cables work fine.
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Only reason I stopped recommending the BimmerGeeks cable was after seeing several out-of-box failed cables. I think it was around 5-6 cables over a 3-4 month period.
Did the bad bimmergeeks cables not work at all or was it more subtle?
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Did the bad bimmergeeks cables not work at all or was it more subtle?
There were two failure types we saw. One with no connection to the car at all (both circles in INPA were empty) and another where there was connection but it was rapidly intermittent (both circles in INPA were flashing rapidly). In all these cases I was connected remotely so couldn’t examine the cable.

I have seen these same failures on typical ebay or Amazon purchased cables as well, so I just assumed BimmerGeeks was selling the same cables for more money, which might be incorrect. The quality on all these cables seems hit or miss, but for $20 I figure it’s a fair risk.

People ask me all the time, “Which cable should I buy?”, and I just suggest to get the cheapest one from a seller near you that accepts returns.

One thing I find funny is that most cables use a four position switch when only a two position one is needed. Did the buyer for the manufacturer get a killer deal on a ton of 4-position switches???
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One thing I find funny is that most cables use a four position switch when only a two position one is needed. Did the buyer for the manufacturer get a killer deal on a ton of 4-position switches???
Ha, ha ... I noticed the same 4 way switch on the generic Amazon k+dcan cable (Taotao) I picked up recently. I bet the same factory makes most of the cheap generic cables.

Since I am looking to get an e90, I ordered the BG cable last night so hopefully it works and I can return the generic one. Sounds like I should be able to tell quickly if there will be issues. Thanks for the feedback.
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