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Old 08-15-2019, 12:35 PM   #161
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I'm eyeing the 996 since they're undervalued for being the first water cooled and the style isn't so great. They are a good bang for the buck with IMS bearing fix installed.
I'd spend a bit more and get a 997- just run the VIN to make sure it's an M97 motor, and not an M96.

They're pretty damn close to the bottom of their depreciation curve, the styling of the exterior is, imo, much nicer. The interior is also much better on the 997.

They're fairly reliable, parts are everywhere. If you get one with PCCBs, you'll never have to buy rotors (assuming you don't track it), and you'll never have to scrub brake dust off your wheels again. Ever. That alone is almost worth the five figure price tag.
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I'd spend a bit more and get a 997- just run the VIN to make sure it's an M97 motor, and not an M96.



They're pretty damn close to the bottom of their depreciation curve, the styling of the exterior is, imo, much nicer. The interior is also much better on the 997.



They're fairly reliable, parts are everywhere. If you get one with PCCBs, you'll never have to buy rotors (assuming you don't track it), and you'll never have to scrub brake dust off your wheels again. Ever. That alone is almost worth the five figure price tag.
This is probably far enough in the future where a 997 would be fairly realistic. So Iíll keep an eye on them.

I would avoid carbon brakes. Those things can get chipped on the street.


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Old 08-15-2019, 01:23 PM   #163
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I would avoid carbon brakes. Those things can get chipped on the street.
Just don't hammer the throttle when driving through gravel. Mine aren't chipped. I know a guy that has 400,000 miles on his original PCCB rotors, with no issues.
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Just don't hammer the throttle when driving through gravel. Mine aren't chipped. I know a guy that has 400,000 miles on his original PCCB rotors, with no issues.


400,000 miles on one of those cars would be ridiculous. Not sure I believe that mileage.


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Old 08-15-2019, 01:59 PM   #165
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400,000 miles on one of those cars would be ridiculous. Not sure I believe that mileage.
The 997s are over a decade and a half old. Easy to hit that if you're daily driving them.

If you're that concerned about PCCB wear/replacement, you can replace the carbon rotors with steel units if/when the time comes, with the appropriate pads. The GT3 rotors and pads are a direct replacement. Suncoast even offers a PCCB delete kit for < $2,000. All OEM parts.

https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/PK996TTPC.html
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Old 08-15-2019, 02:40 PM   #166
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The 997s are over a decade and a half old. Easy to hit that if you're daily driving them.

If you're that concerned about PCCB wear/replacement, you can replace the carbon rotors with steel units if/when the time comes, with the appropriate pads. The GT3 rotors and pads are a direct replacement. Suncoast even offers a PCCB delete kit for < $2,000. All OEM parts.

https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/PK996TTPC.html
Cars that are a decade old should be sitting at 120k-150k, maybe 200k but 400k is a huge stretch for a car that age let alone a Porsche.

Not like I don't believe you but it is a stretch lol.
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The 997s are over a decade and a half old. Easy to hit that if you're daily driving them.

If you're that concerned about PCCB wear/replacement, you can replace the carbon rotors with steel units if/when the time comes, with the appropriate pads. The GT3 rotors and pads are a direct replacement. Suncoast even offers a PCCB delete kit for < $2,000. All OEM parts.

https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/PK996TTPC.html


That's 74 miles at day EVERY DAY of the year one a first year model. IDK who would be driving a Porsche that much. Doable for sure but not probable. My commute is 64 miles total per day right now (soon to be 12 YAY), but that's 5 days a week so only 16K miles a year. In total I usually averaged 21K per year over the past 7 years.


I would definitely avoid PCCB if at all possible in this case. $2000 to REMOVE a feature lmao. Only a Porsche driver would think that's a deal.
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Old 08-15-2019, 04:21 PM   #169
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Cars that are a decade old should be sitting at 120k-150k, maybe 200k but 400k is a huge stretch for a car that age let alone a Porsche.

Not like I don't believe you but it is a stretch lol.
I get it, the numbers seem ridiculous, and I wouldn't have believed some random stranger on the internet if I didn't know this guy personally. Also, note that in Europe, these things aren't garage queens. People drive them, long distances, in all kinds of conditions.

I did a ton of reading, and was hoping to avoid the PCCBs for the reasons you mention - but he was the one that talked me into them. Once I learned you can replace the brakes all around with iron rotors, it was an easy decision for me to make. Hell, just never having to clean brake dust again is worth it (for me, ymmv).

Now, about the new 'Vette- the exterior is stunning, but I can't get over the interiors. The C7 is the same way. Great looking car, looks like the interior is Fisher Price parts, assembled by pre-schoolers.

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I get it, the numbers seem ridiculous, and I wouldn't have believed some random stranger on the internet if I didn't know this guy personally. Also, note that in Europe, these things aren't garage queens. People drive them, long distances, in all kinds of conditions.

I did a ton of reading, and was hoping to avoid the PCCBs for the reasons you mention - but he was the one that talked me into them. Once I learned you can replace the brakes all around with iron rotors, it was an easy decision for me to make. Hell, just never having to clean brake dust again is worth it (for me, ymmv).

Now, about the new 'Vette- the exterior is stunning, but I can't get over the interiors. The C7 is the same way. Great looking car, looks like the interior is Fisher Price parts, assembled by pre-schoolers.
Have you sat in a C7? I don't have many gripes about the interior in that one. The C6 and prior interiors were garbage though.
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Have you sat in a C7? I don't have many gripes about the interior in that one. The C6 and prior interiors were garbage though.
I have. One of my friends has one. Stunning exterior, I'm not a fan of the interior.

Agreed though, that it is *much* nicer than the previous models.
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That's 74 miles at day EVERY DAY of the year one a first year model. IDK who would be driving a Porsche that much. Doable for sure but not probable. My commute is 64 miles total per day right now (soon to be 12 YAY), but that's 5 days a week so only 16K miles a year. In total I usually averaged 21K per year over the past 7 years.


I would definitely avoid PCCB if at all possible in this case. $2000 to REMOVE a feature lmao. Only a Porsche driver would think that's a deal.
That's an insane amount of driving.
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