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Old 06-30-2019, 08:51 AM   #8861
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She's just ignant...


No sheís not!

She knows that her supporters are.
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Old 06-30-2019, 08:59 AM   #8862
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Btw trump was right to question the results considering the fbi stated "we'll stop him" from getting elected (thanks strzok)
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Old 07-01-2019, 09:25 PM   #8863
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You and your ilk still haven't accepted you lost, ask ms gap tooth whore in Georgia
Of course we have, it's just the grossly corrupted nature of that loss that causes consternation and concern going into 2020, even if those who benefited from Putin's thumb on the scale seem oddly ambivalent.
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Old 07-02-2019, 01:09 AM   #8864
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Of course we have, it's just the grossly corrupted nature of that loss that causes consternation and concern going into 2020, even if those who benefited from Putin's thumb on the scale seem oddly ambivalent.
What "gross corruption"? Be more precise.
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Old 07-02-2019, 10:22 AM   #8865
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I'm still waiting to see evidence of a cause-effect link between whatever the Russians did and the actual election results.
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Old 07-02-2019, 10:37 AM   #8866
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I'm still waiting to see evidence of a cause-effect link between whatever the Russians did and the actual election results.
The Russians spent $100,000 on FaceBook ads apparently. They are f***ing BRILLIANT you know. They managed to get Donald Trump into the White House for the cost of an average kitchen refurb. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton only had $700,000,000 of donor money to spend. Just not a level playing field at all. No wonder she lost.
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Old 07-02-2019, 12:16 PM   #8867
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Why is Facebook not being held accountable for selling political ads to Russians during the 2016 election?

Is it legal to sell political ads to foreign entities?
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Old 07-02-2019, 01:03 PM   #8868
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Why is Facebook not being held accountable for selling political ads to Russians during the 2016 election?

Is it legal to sell political ads to foreign entities?
No. It's not. That's the point. Nothing about the thing is in any way illegal. It wouldn't be illegal even if Trump had taken advise from the Russians. When the Hillary's camp did it it was called opposition reasearch. They een used it, knowing it was phony, to set up thr Trump campaign members and obtain FISA warrants to spy on them. That's what the entire Russian collusion narrative has been all about.
But if Trump HAD done the same as teh Democrats it would have been called collusion. But as we know he didn't. Doesn't stop the Left wing a55h0les thouh. Still making shti up.
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Old 07-02-2019, 01:28 PM   #8869
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Why is Facebook not being held accountable for selling political ads to Russians during the 2016 election?

Is it legal to sell political ads to foreign entities?


Actually, I think it is legal for company with worldwide viewership to sell ads to anyone.
It would be an FEC violation for foreigners to advocate on behalf of a candidate but they can say a lot of things that come up to that line.

Itís called freedom of speech and it keeps us from killing each other in the streets.
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Old 07-02-2019, 02:12 PM   #8870
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Actually, I think it is legal for company with worldwide viewership to sell ads to anyone.
It would be an FEC violation for foreigners to advocate on behalf of a candidate but they can say a lot of things that come up to that line.

Itís called freedom of speech and it keeps us from killing each other in the streets.


Iím all for freedom of speech, but I hear a lot of complaints about Russians BUYING political ads on Facebook (and purportedly influencing the 2016 election) and I donít hear any complaints about Facebook SELLING political ads to Russians and distributing them on its platform.
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I think it's sad that you all still make all of Russia's influence attempts as nothing more than "Facebook ads". You don't learn from history if you belittle it.
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I think it's sad that you all still make all of Russia's influence attempts as nothing more than "Facebook ads". You don't learn from history if you belittle it.


I donít think the Russians really had much influence on the 2016 election.
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I think it's sad that you all still make all of Russia's influence attempts as nothing more than "Facebook ads". You don't learn from history if you belittle it.
It is far more than Facebook ads, they planted false information with a political opponent and used it to try to de-legitimize and indict the president of the united states for 2+ years. That's really bad, and incredibly dangerous.

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I think it's sad that you all still make all of Russia's influence attempts as nothing more than "Facebook ads". You don't learn from history if you belittle it.
I think it is sad that you ignore the DNC's actual collusion with Russian and other foreign nations.

But to be clear, I don't belittle Russia's actions, just like I also don't belittle England's actions or any other foreign actors. I am just not shocked, like you, that this stuff happens. And I am also not convinced their actions had a material affect on the results. But I understand you need to buy that hook, line and sinker in order to justify your outsized rage and hatred of Trump and conservatives.
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It is far more than Facebook ads, they planted false information with a political opponent and used it to try to de-legitimize and indict the president of the united states for 2+ years. That's really bad, and incredibly dangerous.



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I donít think the Russians really had much influence on the 2016 election.
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It is far more than Facebook ads, they planted false information with a political opponent and used it to try to de-legitimize and indict the president of the united states for 2+ years. That's really bad, and incredibly dangerous.

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I think it is sad that you ignore the DNC's actual collusion with Russian and other foreign nations.

But to be clear, I don't belittle Russia's actions, just like I also don't belittle England's actions or any other foreign actors. I am just not shocked, like you, that this stuff happens. And I am also not convinced their actions had a material affect on the results. But I understand you need to buy that hook, line and sinker in order to justify your outsized rage and hatred of Trump and conservatives.
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Shabby will say that was his stance all along...

Dumbfvck 1, 2, 3, and 4. Just in the order that I predicted.

Ed: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...trump-n1025306

If you really do not think that people get influenced by millions of dollars spent on ads, rallies, and e-mails/data being hacked/phished and strategically released to do the most damage, then you're just an ignorant hack. Russia's "Internet Research Agency" employed hundreds of people with the purpose of helping Trump win and to sow discord within the US.

AoG: You seem to dismiss everything the Russian's did to help the GOP because you seem to support that, but are constantly attacking Democrats for what you believe (although unfounded) just because the are Democrats. If what you accuse the Democrats of doing is true, then there should be punishment and it is wrong... that doesn't change everything else that happened and that is wrong as well. Can you possibly admit that?

Cab: By saying it's nothing more than "a few facebook ads" it is belittling what was done. Every country wants to meddle in the elections of foreign countries, we don't know of any that have gone to the extent that Russia went this past presidential election. They did more than any other country has ever done (per reports), yet you're dismissing it as a run of the mill kind of thing when it isn't.

Sword: You're just a fvcking retard who still doesn't believe that Russia had anything to do with it (Seth Rich, really?), and would welcome Russia to do it either way.
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Dumbfvck 1, 2, 3, and 4. Just in the order that I predicted.



Ed: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...trump-n1025306



If you really do not think that people get influenced by millions of dollars spent on ads, rallies, and e-mails/data being hacked/phished and strategically released to do the most damage, then you're just an ignorant hack. Russia's "Internet Research Agency" employed hundreds of people with the purpose of helping Trump win and to sow discord within the US.



AoG: You seem to dismiss everything the Russian's did to help the GOP because you seem to support that, but are constantly attacking Democrats for what you believe (although unfounded) just because the are Democrats. If what you accuse the Democrats of doing is true, then there should be punishment and it is wrong... that doesn't change everything else that happened and that is wrong as well. Can you possibly admit that?



Cab: By saying it's nothing more than "a few facebook ads" it is belittling what was done. Every country wants to meddle in the elections of foreign countries, we don't know of any that have gone to the extent that Russia went this past presidential election. They did more than any other country has ever done (per reports), yet you're dismissing it as a run of the mill kind of thing when it isn't.



Sword: You're just a fvcking retard who still doesn't believe that Russia had anything to do with it (Seth Rich, really?), and would welcome Russia to do it either way.


As well you welcome Russian involvement channeled through an ex-MI6 guy.

Oh the ironknee.

Get a grip.

FTR, foreign influence on a US election is abhorrent to me.
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As well you welcome Russian involvement channeled through an ex-MI6 guy.

Oh the ironknee.

Get a grip.

FTR, foreign influence on a US election is abhorrent to me.
Interesting... seeing how your previous stance was "we do it to others, so others should be able to do it to us" and "I would welcome Russian interference".
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Interesting... seeing how your previous stance was "we do it to others, so others should be able to do it to us" and "I would welcome Russian interference".


I never wrote that. I merely pointed out that the US also engages in it: both in words and bullets.

I find the hypocrisy/ignorance of those who deny that fact (not saying you do) to be laughable.
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People that meddled in 2016:

Russians
Ukranians
British
Australians
Illegal aliens and non-citizens (voting)

If you didn't realize, each of those entities were a net benefit to the democrats.
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