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Old 07-17-2019, 09:17 AM   #3161
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That's never been a deal-breaker for Trump fans. In fact, that is a bonus.
what , obama being a racist? well yeah i agree it shouldn't but i really don't know much about trump fans so i won't comment beyond that.
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Old 07-17-2019, 12:01 PM   #3162
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Exhibit 250 of the lefty's hypocrisy

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...r-asylum-claim
FLASHBACK: Obama said in 2014 crime and poverty not enough for asylum claim

racist right?


I agree with that assessment. I don’t understand how people from Juarez could be allowed asylum in the US. There are plenty of other nice places to live in Mexico that do not require asylum claims.


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Old 07-17-2019, 12:04 PM   #3163
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So how many of the socialism supporters on this forum are willing to move to a socialist country?


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If I had no ties in the US I’d have no qualms about living in most countries in Europe. They’re very nice places to live.


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Old 07-18-2019, 01:04 PM   #3164
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This just in: Mexicans racist trump supports MMGA!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.286c263121af
Unauthorized immigrants face public backlash in Mexico, survey finds
More than 6 in 10 Mexicans say migrants are a burden on their country because they take jobs and benefits that should belong to Mexicans. A 55 percent majority supports deporting migrants who travel through Mexico to reach the United States.

Survey: https://www.washingtonpost.com/conte...=.52ed0e4d97a9

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Old 07-18-2019, 01:06 PM   #3165
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They will deport them to USA.


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Old 07-18-2019, 01:11 PM   #3166
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If I had no ties in the US I’d have no qualms about living in most countries in Europe. They’re very nice places to live.


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You mean the US isn't at the top of the list of best countries to live in????

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/13/top-...-for-2019.html

https://www.businessinsider.com/merc...n-the-world-26

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Old 07-18-2019, 01:37 PM   #3167
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Old 07-18-2019, 04:38 PM   #3168
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Remember when we cared about our children? Me too

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Teen accused of raping 7-year-old girl in Georgia
In addition to his charges, Diaz Ambrocio, who was born in Guatemala, has a hold placed on him by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Cobb County jail records show.

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Old 07-18-2019, 08:34 PM   #3169
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Illegal kills mom and her 2 kids

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Feds: Man charged with killing 3 had been deported twice

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Old 07-18-2019, 09:05 PM   #3170
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The more salient policy question is, do immigrants represent an increase in the risk of various crimes over U.S. citizens or less?

One can always cherry pick and highlight horrific crimes from any population, native or immigrant, but do these immigrants represent, proportionally, an increased, decreased or comparable risk level of crime?

Pretty much all the stats show that immigrants tend to have lower rates of crime than comparable US citizens, i.e., if anything, they're reducing, on average, ones risk of crime.

Policy and political argument by cherry picking sensationalist stories, predicated on fear and emotion, inevitably makes for bad policy.

Perhaps America should return to its Age of Reason roots and base it's policies, laws and practices on reason rather than scratching at raw emotion.
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Old 07-19-2019, 12:29 AM   #3171
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The more salient policy question is, do immigrants represent an increase in the risk of various crimes over U.S. citizens or less? They represent an increase.

One can always cherry pick and highlight horrific crimes from any population, native or immigrant, but do these immigrants represent, proportionally, an increased, decreased or comparable risk level of crime? Increased.

Pretty much all the stats show that immigrants tend to have lower rates of crime than comparable US citizens, i.e., if anything, they're reducing, on average, ones risk of crime. Are you conflating illegal immigrants and legal immigrants again? How can anyone cite the crime rates among illegal immigrants when no one can definitively state how many are in the country, and the US govt isn't even allowed to ask during it's biggest people counting project? Besides, the crime rate among illegal immigrants is 100%. Ya know, cuz, they've entered or stayed in the country ILLEGALLY.


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Policy and political argument by cherry picking sensationalist stories, predicated on fear and emotion, inevitably makes for bad policy.

Perhaps America should return to its Age of Reason roots and base it's policies, laws and practices on reason rather than scratching at raw emotion.
Raw emotions like "they're snatching babies from their mother's arms" kind of raw emotions?

Like "everyone deserves everything all the time no matter what" kind of raw emotions?

Like "abolish ICE" kind of raw emotions?

Like staged tear-filled photos while staring at an empty lot, pretending to be staring at detainees kind of raw emotions?

It's precious that you pretend there's logic and reason solely one one side of a complex and dynamic subject like immigration.
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Old 07-19-2019, 02:30 AM   #3172
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Or maybe raw emotions like conflating illegal immigration with legal immigration?
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Old 07-19-2019, 07:22 AM   #3173
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Border patrol arrests previously removed gang members and child sex offender

https://www.breitbart.com/border/201...-texas-border/

Why the constant child sex stuff? Is this a cultural clash?
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Or maybe raw emotions like conflating illegal immigration with legal immigration?
I use to think dhumb is being dishonest when he does this (repeatedly) but I am certain he does this simply because he is, well, dhumb.
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Old 07-19-2019, 08:09 AM   #3175
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I use to think dhumb is being dishonest when he does this (repeatedly) but I am certain he does this simply because he is, well, dhumb.


In keeping with the new rhetorical style, I am going with him being a racist.
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Old 07-19-2019, 09:19 AM   #3176
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In keeping with the new rhetorical style, I am going with him being a racist.
I can offer no argument why your decision is incorrect, so by all means!
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In keeping with the new rhetorical style, I am going with him being a racist.
To be honest, is there anything more racist than believing minorities need special privileges to keep up with whitey?
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Old 07-19-2019, 10:02 AM   #3178
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To be honest, is there anything more racist than believing minorities need special privileges to keep up with whitey?
You mean like deciding thefts of less than $700 should not be prosecuted because doing so "makes poverty a crime"?
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To be honest, is there anything more racist than believing minorities need special privileges to keep up with whitey?


It’s sad though. My oldest grandson who is a Tesla driving electrical engineer, was upset when Trump said “what do you have to lose?”

He thought it was patronizing as Trump was assuming that all black people lived in poverty stricken and depressed areas. “How dare he?”

I pointed out that it was far more insulting to assume that black people were so shiftless and stupid that we were incapable of obtaining state issued photo ID.
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That is a tough one when policies are made keeping race in mind.


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