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Old 12-28-2017, 08:22 AM   #4001
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http://tracinskiletter.com/2017/01/2...stand-numbers/
The New York Times Thinks You're Too Dumb to Understand Numbers

http://tracinskiletter.com/2017/01/1...thout-numbers/
Science Without Numbers
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Old 12-29-2017, 12:45 PM   #4002
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In case you all forgot

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...ce-free-today/
NINE YEARS AGO... Al Gore Predicted North Pole Would Be Completely Ice Free by Today

Obama election era
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Old 12-29-2017, 01:18 PM   #4003
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In case you all forgot

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...ce-free-today/
NINE YEARS AGO... Al Gore Predicted North Pole Would Be Completely Ice Free by Today

Obama election era
Which is why I listen to actual climate scientists on the issue rather than cherry picking dusty random quotes from a now long gone politician.

An ice free summer Arctic Sea by 2017 is obviously premature, but only just that, premature. Arctic warming and commensurate long term ice loss is still the strong trendline.

In other climate news, 2017 seems to be shaping up to be the second or third warmest year on record.
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Old 12-29-2017, 01:25 PM   #4004
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I just want some god damn snow in the winter.
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Old 12-29-2017, 02:18 PM   #4005
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I just want some god damn snow in the winter.
Actually, the greatest amount of snow tends to happen as temperatures approach, 32, warmer air being able to hold more precipital moisture. The largest, driest desert on earth is Antarctica.
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Old 12-29-2017, 03:04 PM   #4006
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Which is why I listen to actual climate scientists on the issue rather than cherry picking dusty random quotes from a now long gone politician.

An ice free summer Arctic Sea by 2017 is obviously premature, but only just that, premature. Arctic warming and commensurate long term ice loss is still the strong trendline.

In other climate news, 2017 seems to be shaping up to be the second or third warmest year on record.
aka "none of our predictions that didn't come true matter now, only the predictions we're making now that haven't yet been proven false are to be discussed"
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Old 12-29-2017, 03:36 PM   #4007
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aka "none of our predictions that didn't come true matter now, only the predictions we're making now that haven't yet been proven false are to be discussed"
...and they are only to be discussed if you agree with them, because if you don't agree, then you are an anti-science denier.
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Old 12-29-2017, 08:10 PM   #4008
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Actually, the greatest amount of snow tends to happen as temperatures approach, 32, warmer air being able to hold more precipital moisture. The largest, driest desert on earth is Antarctica.
Thanks, Cliff Clavin.
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Old 12-29-2017, 08:33 PM   #4009
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Actually, the greatest amount of snow tends to happen as temperatures approach, 32, warmer air being able to hold more precipital moisture. The largest, driest desert on earth is Antarctica.
Yes, but if it's over 32 you're sh!t out of luck. This year I've been still running my AC at the end of October...
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Thanks, Cliff Clavin.
Sure thing, Ron Burgundy.
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Old 12-29-2017, 08:50 PM   #4011
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aka "none of our predictions that didn't come true matter now, only the predictions we're making now that haven't yet been proven false are to be discussed"
Aka, aka Act of Clod, all the vast majority of predictions that are being proven are to be discarded because vast left wing conspiracy. ROFL.
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Old 12-29-2017, 09:08 PM   #4012
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Sure thing, Ron Burgundy.Sure thing, Ron Burgundy.
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Science

https://environment.princeton.edu/ne...ly-cloud-cycle
Spotty coverage: Climate models underestimate cooling effect of daily cloud cycle
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Climate scientists grossly underestimate the effect cloud cover has on global temperatures, according to researchers at Princeton University's environmental institute.

Climate models factor in too much of the sun's daily heat into their projections about what the Earth's land temperatures could look like long-term. Inaccuracies in accounting for daily cloud cycle distorts the effectiveness of a tool scientists use to measure climate change, according to a study published in the journal Nature Communications.

"It's important to get the right result for the right reason," co-author Amilcare Porporato, a professor of environmental engineering at the Princeton Environmental Institute, told Nature Communications. While the findings do not invalidate projections outright, he added, they do toss a wrench in modern methods scientists use to determine future land temperatures.

"These errors can trickle down into other changes, such as projecting fewer and weaker storms," he said. "We hope that our results are useful for improving how clouds are modeled, which would improve the calibration of climate models and make the results much more reliable."

Porporato's research found that inaccurately measuring cloud cycle results in the sun pounding the Earth with an extra 1-2 watts of energy per square meter. Scientists argue carbon dioxide pumped into the atmosphere through the last 100 years produced approximately an extra 3.7 watts of energy per square meter.

"The error here is half of that, so in that sense it becomes substantial," said Porporato, who co-authored the study with Jun Yin, a postdoctoral research associate in civil and environmental engineering. Yin said climatologists generally do a good job measuring average cloud coverage, but miss important peaks in actual cloud coverage.

Yin and Porporato used satellite images from 1986-2005 to compare the averages they came up with to those from nine climate models, most of which erroneously found the thickest coverage occurring in the morning over the land rather than in the early afternoon. "A small difference in timing can have a big radiative impact," said Yin, who analyzed cloud coverage at three-hour intervals.

"Climate scientists have the clouds, but they miss the timing," Porporato said. "There's a strong sensitivity between the daily cloud cycle and temperature. It's like a person putting on a blanket at night or using a parasol during the day. If you miss that, it makes a huge difference."
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Vote to ban AoG for constantly bumping a thread about settled science.
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Vote to ban AoG for constantly bumping a thread about settled science.


Or have him tried by water ordeal. If he drowns he is innocent.
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Old 01-11-2018, 03:57 PM   #4016
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Or have him tried by water ordeal. If he drowns he is innocent.
Yes, excellent idea! Fitting that a science denier should perish from the rising sea level which will be born from that which he denies.
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Interesting article, of from an actual academic publication. Good work, AOG
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Interesting article, of from an actual academic publication. Good work, AOG
I see you are waiting for someone to email you a rebuttal to cut and paste
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lol at settled.
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I see you are waiting for someone to email you a rebuttal to cut and paste
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