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Old 01-10-2020, 04:28 AM   #1
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Manual Shifter Sloppy

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The shifter in my e46 M3 6MT with ~130k miles has been quite loose ever since I bought it at 100k miles. It's just general slop –*no specific direction, just loose overall. I really noticed it after driving some stock manual bimmers with tight shifters. Any ideas on what parts to replace that could help tighten up the shifter the most? All suggestions appreciated. Thanks
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Old 01-10-2020, 09:47 AM   #2
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If its getting notchy and loose - this may be the problem: shifter cup:


https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...yABEgLS7_D_BwE


Or you can get the whole kit that addresses slop in multiple components:


https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...yABEgJsVvD_BwE
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Old 01-11-2020, 07:42 AM   #3
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Do the rebuild. I have the same issue but only replaced the top end including the cup and it did not fix the issue.


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Old 01-12-2020, 12:09 PM   #4
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Thanks for the help...I think I will go with the rebuild. How hard of a job is this if anyone has done it?
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Old 01-13-2020, 01:22 AM   #5
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If your tranny is off the car then easy, otherwise there are parts that are very tight in there in terms of space to work.

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The problem is almost certainly EVERYTHING. But most commonly its the "shift rod joint" which connects the shift rod to the trans itself.

This kit has all you need with better parts. If you want stock parts, ECS has that kit too.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-assemble...5117507695kt3/
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Job is not too hard. I rebuilt the top end but did not fix the problem, have to fix the bottom end.


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Job is not too hard. I rebuilt the top end but did not fix the problem, have to fix the bottom end.


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What do you classify as top end vs bottom end on the shifter?

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What do you classify as top end vs bottom end on the shifter?

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Sounds like he means the parts included in the kit I linked. The shift rod joint is the main piece that will tighten up the slop. The carrier bushings where the shift carrier connects to the trans is another one that flexes as well as the joint at the rear of the carrier, its just aft of the hole in the floor where the shifter is. All of those are “under” the car and thus probably what could be called “lower”.
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Sounds like he means the parts included in the kit I linked. The shift rod joint is the main piece that will tighten up the slop. The carrier bushings where the shift carrier connects to the trans is another one that flexes as well as the joint at the rear of the carrier, its just aft of the hole in the floor where the shifter is. All of those are “under” the car and thus probably what could be called “lower”.
But what is top end? Shifter knob?

I don't really like that kit as it forces you to buy parts that don't wear and don't need replacement, but it can be used as a guide. You won't need new clips or dowel pins. What wears out in the shift rod joint is the foam piece which is like $3 (item # 14 in realoem link below) vs buying the entire shift rod joint for no reason for $25.

From realoem diagram, you need to buy part numbers 7, 2, 10, 14, 4. (All in the correct quantities, obviously).

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=25_0375

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By top end I mean everything you cAn get to from inside the car which is about half the process. The lower end is under the car work like connection to trans.


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not a easy job.
I removed the exhaust to get more room.
you need to replace the washers or add more washers to all the joints on the shifters.
add as much washers as you can to get the shifter tight.
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