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Old 01-29-2018, 09:16 AM   #1
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I bought this 2000 323i a year and a half ago with the hopes of swapping a turbocharged LS into it. Well, the engine needed to be replaced in my Silverado at that time so the e46 became my daily driver. It made it most of the way through last winter before it showed signs of a head gasket failure. Of course, just before the head gasket failed, I sold my Silverado. So I was in need of a daily driver. I purchased a 2001 Suburban from a friend and daily it to this day. I didn't want to repair the m52 due to the fact I wanted to swap it anyways.

So, a year later of gathering parts and some tinkering I am to this point.

I'll also attach some pics of the car and some vague progress.
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Old 01-29-2018, 09:28 AM   #2
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The engine is a 2005 L33 with LJMS stage one turbo cam and BTR push rods and double valve springs. The rockers were all wore out so I purchase a set of low mileage rockers with the trunnion kit already installed.

The turbo is an Apex BW S476/87 1.10a/r T4 unit, but I'm considering selling and going with a smaller turbo for various reasons. 1) This car will be a summer daily driver and I don't need to make 1200hp. 2) This turbo is freaking huge and it will be difficult to package as seen in pics.

Trans will be a 4l80e built by a friend and a Jakes billet will handle the convertor responsibilities.

Rear will be a drop out of a 04 M3 which will be on it's way to me today along with the wheels.

I'll try and add pics as I can, but this is it for now. I hope you enjoy.
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Old 01-29-2018, 09:38 AM   #3
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I'll be watching!

My wagon recently had its face smushed... may as well shove a big v8 in it while I'm rebuilding (maybe turbo way down the road). Hopefully I'll be able to learn from any troubles you run into.

I'll be very interested in your progress on the electrical side.

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Old 01-30-2018, 10:31 AM   #5
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Pallet was picked up this morning and on it's way to me! Now I need to get the subframe mount reinforcement kit and get this stuff together.
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Old 01-31-2018, 02:13 PM   #6
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It seems I'll need some more accessory belt clearance from the turbine housing. So I traced out ICT's plates and redesigned them a bit to fit my needs. I'll water jet some 6061 3/8" AL plate and machine the appropriate surfaces for fitment. It is nice to have all these toys available to play with.
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Old 01-31-2018, 02:17 PM   #7
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amazing stuff, looking forward to the progress on this beast.
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Old 02-01-2018, 07:21 AM   #8
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amazing stuff, looking forward to the progress on this beast.
Thanks! And I am too. This build is taking me entirely too long. I'm used to being able to spend all my time after work and weekends to finish a project. With kids, it's a different story.
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:17 PM   #9
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Sold my BW S476 and put a PT76/75 LS Series on order! I'm excited about this since it will be much easier to package in the little e46 engine bay. Also ordered some rear trailing arm bushings and the subframe reinforcement kit from ECS. Need to finish the machining on my new Alt mount plates then wait for the Precision turbo to come in. Then its finally onto the hot side.
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Old 02-09-2018, 09:19 AM   #10
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Got the new ALT brackets made and machined. I plan on cleaning them up a bit and sending them out to get powder coated. They do a good job getting the belt up and away from where the turbo will snuggle in. I need to find a belt that will work and get some fasteners that will better suit my needs. Turbo should be in by the end of next week so then I can design a T4 flange with brackets to be supported off the front of the engine. Then it's on to building the hotside.
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Old 02-19-2018, 09:17 AM   #11
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4" intercooler in with small modifications behind the OEM bumper.
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Old 02-23-2018, 12:59 PM   #12
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It came today! Much smaller than the S476. Now I won't have to hack everything apart to get a turbo to fit. I ordered a bunch of tube from Global Tech and should be arriving in a couple weeks. I also ordered up a mid 90's Taurus fan and all the necessary hardware and couplers to build the turbo kit. I'll design my own T4 flange with mounting provisions to somehow be braced from the front of the engine block. Should be able to make some good progress in the next couple weeks!
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Old 02-26-2018, 02:09 PM   #13
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Just a stupid picture of my tiny garage and limited space to work. Hopefully my cooling fan shows up soon so I can finalize a spot for the turbo to rest and clear everything.

Anyone here dealt with Ceramic Coatings for exhaust and what not? I got a quote from Jet-Hot and I almost fell off my chair. Wondering if someone has dealt with other options.
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Welded some short radius elbows on the IC to keep the cold in check.
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Got the rear tore out this weekend in hope to start welding in some subframe mount reinforcement plates. I dropped the fuel tank (which was full, naturally) to rid the area of combustible sources. It got me thinking about how I'm going to setup the fuel pump(s) I have two Walbro 450 pumps which one will be activated by a Hobbs switch. I'm thinking I'll retain the OEM idea and run both pumps in the passenger side and return into the drivers side using the OEM siphon setup. Not sure what other good options are.
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Got the rear tore out this weekend in hope to start welding in some subframe mount reinforcement plates. I dropped the fuel tank (which was full, naturally) to rid the area of combustible sources. It got me thinking about how I'm going to setup the fuel pump(s) I have two Walbro 450 pumps which one will be activated by a Hobbs switch. I'm thinking I'll retain the OEM idea and run both pumps in the passenger side and return into the drivers side using the OEM siphon setup. Not sure what other good options are.
I decided to run a surge tank in the trunk area. Specifically, a Radium Engineering MPFST with twin walbro 450s in it. Surge tank is fed by a DW200 in the stock location, and overflows into the stock return location on the tank.
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I decided to run a surge tank in the trunk area. Specifically, a Radium Engineering MPFST with twin walbro 450s in it. Surge tank is fed by a DW200 in the stock location, and overflows into the stock return location on the tank.

Holy cripes that's a sweet unit. I like the idea. I have a machine shop at my disposal and I think I can make something similar for a lot cheaper. So the real question is, can the stock BMW pump keep the surge tank full? I will run the main feed from the bmw tank to the surge, then the 450s teed into a line to the regulator then to the stock LS1 rail. Return from regulator to the surge tank. Lastly, a line from the surge tank to the stock return to the bmw tank.
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Holy cripes that's a sweet unit. I like the idea. I have a machine shop at my disposal and I think I can make something similar for a lot cheaper. So the real question is, can the stock BMW pump keep the surge tank full? I will run the main feed from the bmw tank to the surge, then the 450s teed into a line to the regulator then to the stock LS1 rail. Return from regulator to the surge tank. Lastly, a line from the surge tank to the stock return to the bmw tank.
You're 100% correct on the line routing. I wasn't sure about the capability of the stock unit, and I wanted increased e85 capability, so I upgraded to an M3 hanger and the Deatschwerks 200 series (255lph) pump. There is another guy on here with an M3 and a Radium MPFST using a walbro 255 as his surge tank feed.
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Old 03-20-2018, 02:07 PM   #19
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Welded in the reinforcement plates and got it all painted up. Stabbed the rear in, some pun intended, and come to find out the sedan differential cross member does not fit the M3 diff! So, now looking to source one of those.

I also hacked the frame rail to pieces to fit the turbo and all the goodies to go with it. It looks like I can get it all to fit with out too much of a headache. It's time to get after it!
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A little more progress. I'll make a merge from 14 ga mild steel with the oval shape where the tubes come together. Then it will transition to the rectangle T4 shape and be welded to the flange. I'll also include a provision for the wastegate on the top and I think the position will be close to shown in pics.
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