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Old 11-16-2017, 09:49 AM   #1
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My M3 Swap Wagon built by Kaiv....

Hey guys, you might have seen a few of my threads on here looking for sunroof delete facelift wagons or some of the parts I had for sale, but I finally got my car built and back from Kaiv and have been driving it for a week. I did find a 2002 sunroof delete black interior with sport package!

Man I like it! Here are some pictures of how it sits now, but there are already a lot of interior and exterior parts on the way.

For mods it doesnt have too much right now:

Koni shocks
Syncro Design Works RTAB
Solid Subframe bushings
Single Mass Lightweight flywheel
Turner Monoball FCAB
Stromung rear section exhaust

...and thats all I can remember for now.

Sways I will get soon and then coilovers after that.

As far as the build, Kaiv did a complete rebuild of everything and also installed Redish chassis plates for safe measure. Complete M3 swap front to rear. I have some 18" X5 wheels and tires ready to go on now, they will last till I decide about flares or such.

Plans going forward:

Supersprint headers
Epic tune
Flares of some sort
Delete roof rails (coming soon)
All clear lights (on the way)
Different bumper
Xenon Lights
Several new interior parts (on the way)

Happy for any thoughts or questions!
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Old 11-16-2017, 10:18 AM   #2
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Old 11-16-2017, 10:24 AM   #3
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Old 11-16-2017, 11:06 AM   #5
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Old 11-16-2017, 08:40 PM   #6
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Hey guys, you might have seen a few of my threads on here looking for sunroof delete facelift wagons or some of the parts I had for sale, but I finally got my car built and back from Kaiv and have been driving it for a week. I did find a 2002 sunroof delete black interior with sport package!

Man I like it! Here are some pictures of how it sits now, but there are already a lot of interior and exterior parts on the way.

For mods it doesnt have too much right now:

Koni shocks
Syncro Design Works RTAB
Solid Subframe bushings
Single Mass Lightweight flywheel
Turner Monoball FCAB
Stromung rear section exhaust

...and thats all I can remember for now.

Sways I will get soon and then coilovers after that.

As far as the build, Kaiv did a complete rebuild of everything and also installed Redish chassis plates for safe measure. Complete M3 swap front to rear. I have some 18" X5 wheels and tires ready to go on now, they will last till I decide about flares or such.

Plans going forward:

Supersprint headers
Epic tune
Flares of some sort
Delete roof rails (coming soon)
All clear lights (on the way)
Different bumper
Xenon Lights
Several new interior parts (on the way)

Happy for any thoughts or questions!

how much does that swap cost? out the door. does he handle everything? you just send him the wagon>
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Old 11-16-2017, 10:33 PM   #7
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I will let him PM you if he wants to about labor cost. It's about $2500 in parts give or take for the rebuild, you just give him a donor M3 and a wagon. He can try to help find the M3 as well if you want him to.
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Old 11-17-2017, 05:21 AM   #9
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Hey guys, you might have seen a few of my threads on here looking for sunroof delete facelift wagons or some of the parts I had for sale, but I finally got my car built and back from Kaiv and have been driving it for a week. I did find a 2002 sunroof delete black interior with sport package!

Man I like it! Here are some pictures of how it sits now, but there are already a lot of interior and exterior parts on the way.


Happy for any thoughts or questions!
SpeedAddict - I am loving this - congratulations!

I so badly need to do this to my touring and am currently looking for a donor.

What are your driving impressions? How does the Stromung sound?

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Old 11-17-2017, 09:18 AM   #10
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Nice build. Interested to see where you get with flares. I looked into it and the numbers I was getting back were pretty high. Had hoped for something in the $3k neighborhood and got either flat nos or something in a different zip code.
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SpeedAddict - I am loving this - congratulations!

I so badly need to do this to my touring and am currently looking for a donor.

What are your driving impressions? How does the Stromung sound?

MJ
It drives really well, with the full rebuild it feels like a new car. I wanted something more old school, hydraulic steering and such, and this delivers. I will say though, a stock e46 M3 is much more soft than I expected. Way more lean and brake dive than I would have guessed, so that will need to be fixed. The Stromung sounds nice, but it is a bit too loud for daily. Im thinking about adding some resonators or small mufflers to help.


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Nice build. Interested to see where you get with flares. I looked into it and the numbers I was getting back were pretty high. Had hoped for something in the $3k neighborhood and got either flat nos or something in a different zip code.
Honestly I think I will just do the Hard Motorsport flares and bolt them on with rivnuts. I know many people dont, but I like the bolt on flare look. M2 Autowerks just released their M3 fenders for tourings and sedans, but it requires an entire M3 front end as well.
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Old 11-17-2017, 02:03 PM   #12
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I will say though, a stock e46 M3 is much more soft than I expected. Way more lean and brake dive than I would have guessed, so that will need to be fixed.
How old are the shocks you're running? That could be why. The stock M3 in new-ish form does move a lot more than you'd think, but I wouldn't describe it as lean or dive...

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Honestly I think I will just do the Hard Motorsport flares and bolt them on with rivnuts. I know many people dont, but I like the bolt on flare look.
Ewwwww....

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ohhhh reaaaaally. I'd like to see this.

What's wrong with getting an entire M3 front end though?
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How old are the shocks you're running? That could be why. The stock M3 in new-ish form does move a lot more than you'd think, but I wouldn't describe it as lean or dive...



Ewwwww....



ohhhh reaaaaally. I'd like to see this.

What's wrong with getting an entire M3 front end though?
Yeah, it was molded Hard Motorsports or nothing for me. My biggest issue is high cost for negligble performance gain. I've got 255 square now and wouldnt get much better than 275 square with a full kit. Buying and sending front quarters, hood, bumper to paint plus blending the doors and buying M headlights and accessories is going to have you somewhere in the $6k range without even addressing the rears which is where the real work is.
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There's no such thing as M headlights... and in a few days I'll finally get to test the theory that all it takes it is the plastic to convert the stock ones to pre-facelift coupe shape.

I'll definitely be doing the body work, as I have a long term goal of three matching cars. The front fenders just require some cutting and molding with the sedan fenders to fit the door, but at least the hood and bumper are easy, and (pending results of the above test) so are the headlights. This has nothing whatsoever to do with performance though, only aesthetics.

There's no way that should cost $6k. I've been told about $6k for all the work, including the rear end. Which is still, granted, a ton to spend on looks. That's more than I'm spending on the car itself.
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Old 11-17-2017, 03:02 PM   #15
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How old are the shocks you're running? That could be why. The stock M3 in new-ish form does move a lot more than you'd think, but I wouldn't describe it as lean or dive...



Ewwwww....



ohhhh reaaaaally. I'd like to see this.

What's wrong with getting an entire M3 front end though?
Shocks are newish Koni, so I dont know. I am probably use to pretty tight cars.

Haha no love for the bolt ons? Nothing wrong with the whole front end, just pretty expensive

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Yeah, it was molded Hard Motorsports or nothing for me. My biggest issue is high cost for negligble performance gain. I've got 255 square now and wouldnt get much better than 275 square with a full kit. Buying and sending front quarters, hood, bumper to paint plus blending the doors and buying M headlights and accessories is going to have you somewhere in the $6k range without even addressing the rears which is where the real work is.
Do you have 255's on an M swapped one? If not, the problem we have is that we lose 20mm of clearance in the front, its lost, not moved around. So I could probably do 245's, but it wont look good on the 8.5 wheel that I think is all I can fit. So we almost need the flares just to get decent rubber. Ill see in a few weeks.
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There's no such thing as M headlights... and in a few days I'll finally get to test the theory that all it takes it is the plastic to convert the stock ones to pre-facelift coupe shape.

I'll definitely be doing the body work, as I have a long term goal of three matching cars. The front fenders just require some cutting and molding with the sedan fenders to fit the door, but at least the hood and bumper are easy, and (pending results of the above test) so are the headlights. This has nothing whatsoever to do with performance though, only aesthetics.

There's no way that should cost $6k. I've been told about $6k for all the work, including the rear end. Which is still, granted, a ton to spend on looks. That's more than I'm spending on the car itself.
Looking forward to your results. These off the shelf fenders are $800 plus hood, bumper and carrier. Once prepped and painted you'll be pushing more than you think. The rear is a ton of work. Gave up before I found someone that really wanted to do it.

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Do you have 255's on an M swapped one? If not, the problem we have is that we lose 20mm of clearance in the front, its lost, not moved around. So I could probably do 245's, but it wont look good on the 8.5 wheel that I think is all I can fit. So we almost need the flares just to get decent rubber. Ill see in a few weeks.
Yeah. 19x8.5 ET35 with 255 square. The touring is S54 swapped, but I wouldnt say M swapped as the subframe was unchanged.

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Old 11-29-2017, 07:56 PM   #18
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Can't believe I missed this thread lol.
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And another one! They're multiplying like rabbits at Kaiv's place! Lol! Looking forward to seeing where this one goes.

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Old 12-01-2017, 02:55 PM   #20
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Holy cow! Slicktop wagon! That alone must have took a while to find.

How did you get the donor M3 and Wagon to San Diego to kaiv from Houston and how long did the rebuild take once it was in kaiv's hands?

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