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Old 01-20-2019, 08:59 PM   #1
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Are M3 manual conversions reliable & cost

Are M3 manual conversions reliable long term, and how much do they cost to do approximately?

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Old 01-20-2019, 11:24 PM   #2
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There are two ways to do the conversion:

1) Full OEM - so you basically modify and swap in all the parts from the manual car and delete the SMG gear

2) Self Centering Shifter - Similar to above but you use a self-centering shifter which normally requires interior modifications but doesn't require a modification to the bell housing for the centering detent springs

both are as reliable as each other its just taste and budget but definitely for Option 1 there is virtually no change vs just buying a stock manual if done correctly and ECU recoded correctly... other than the VIN Decode showing its an SMG still it would be exactly as if you had bought it manual from stock
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Old 01-21-2019, 12:32 AM   #3
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Thanks for your reply. I would go with Option 1 as I'd plan to keep the car for a long time.
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Old 01-21-2019, 02:33 AM   #4
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I would go with Option 1 as I'd plan to keep the car for a long time.

Wise choice.
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Old 01-21-2019, 04:15 PM   #5
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Does anyone have some good recommendations in Sydney? Cheers
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Old 01-21-2019, 06:14 PM   #6
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Guys in Sydney tend to rave about a guy called Stace Zossimas... you can find him on Facebook and he is in all the major E46 M3 Facebook groups. I am in WA so have no direct review but he has been helpful to refer to for advice over Messenger... I also believe Brintech Customs will do the job. it's probably best to try join "Australian E46 M3 Owner Group" on Facebook as there is heaps of guys giving reviews and recommendations on there.
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Old 01-21-2019, 07:05 PM   #7
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Does anyone have some good recommendations in Sydney? Cheers
Highly recommend Brintech. last time I was there for my subframe work I saw they do many M3 and custom works.
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Old 01-21-2019, 09:13 PM   #8
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Thanks STAATS and Spacemaster!!!
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Old 04-23-2019, 10:56 PM   #9
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How did you get on OP? When I looked into this years ago when I still had my E46, i hear about Brintech and when I spoke to Stace about it he said they have a done a few conversion from manual back to SMG as they never quite feel right or as OEM. Maybe thats due to Options 2 above instead of the full swap out.

Ive been thinking of getting back into E46 and if i cannot get a manual was re exploring the conversion option again.
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Old 04-24-2019, 01:52 AM   #10
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I was recently talking to the guys at Brintech customs about a manual conversion.

They do 2 kits for the E46 m3, one with the bell-housing and one with the associated clutch, pedal, bushes etc.

Seems like a very knowledgeable guy.

Kit was about 3100 AUD from memory
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:58 PM   #11
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...when I spoke to Stace about it he said they have a done a few conversion from manual back to SMG as they never quite feel right or as OEM.

That's interesting. The manual certainly won't shift as clean and fast as SMG. Converting a manual to SMG is more difficult and costly than converting SMG to manual.
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